IvyFanboy
[11] Champion
OOF what defines a good character is tools. You can be the best damn player on the planet, but if your character simply lacks tools it doesn't matter, because the game becomes more about hoping the opponent fucks up, rather than you being good enough. Their is a limit to how bad a character can be before they hit a level of being obsolete in high level play. As bad as Zas and Talim are, they do have acute advantages that can be worked to compensate for ease of use with more straight forward balanced characters. Mina and Rock on the other hand have shit tools and are always in a bad position.
Also once again, why would you EVER pick Rock over Astaroth? Astaroth has almost everything he does and better plus much much more. It's not like comparing Cas to Soph or NM to Seig...Rock is just a Roll Tier Astaroth. In order to win you need you opponent to be significantly worse and make the mistakes for you and even then you have to play 50/50 on whether or not you're getting that damage anyway.
Also once again, why would you EVER pick Rock over Astaroth? Astaroth has almost everything he does and better plus much much more. It's not like comparing Cas to Soph or NM to Seig...Rock is just a Roll Tier Astaroth. In order to win you need you opponent to be significantly worse and make the mistakes for you and even then you have to play 50/50 on whether or not you're getting that damage anyway.