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I can make many more NHL references.

The NHL used to have a little thing called a ratings problem.

It was due to this defensive hockey tactic known as the Neutral Zone trap, which took advantage of the two line pass rule. The Devils pioneered it and won the cup in 95. Other teams "got used to it", an started using it as well.

And it worked.... and guess what - SCORING WENT DOWN.
The mark of a great goal scorer - 50 goals per season, went unachieved for the first time in decades during several seasons between 1995 and 2004 the year of the lockout.
http://www.sportscity.com/nhl/nhl-50-goal-scorers/

Other teams besides the Devils won the cup in those years - the Wings, Avalanche, Stars and Lightning to be exact, and many began using the Neutral Zone trap to great success.

But guess what happened - ratings went down. People turned away, they were bored.... and after all that the NHL was on lockout and had to win back its fans.

What did they do?
They got rid of the 2 line pass rule (which enabled the neutral zone trap) which allowed more breakaways, they called more penalties (which increased scoring), put in shootouts, so there would be no more ties, and promoted new and exciting personalities.

Sure, purists complained that this was a new game with too many rules, and wasnt like the "old time hockey" they were used to. But their voices were soon silenced by money - money from ever increasing ratings and ticket sales.

Yooooo. hockey
 
Serge2HOT4U said:
I can make many more NHL references.

The NHL used to have a little thing called a ratings problem.

It was due to this defensive hockey tactic known as the Neutral Zone trap, which took advantage of the two line pass rule. The Devils pioneered it and won the cup in 95. Other teams "got used to it", an started using it as well.

And it worked.... and guess what - SCORING WENT DOWN.
The mark of a great goal scorer - 50 goals per season, went unachieved for the first time in decades during several seasons between 1995 and 2004 the year of the lockout.
http://www.sportscity.com/nhl/nhl-50-goal-scorers/

Other teams besides the Devils won the cup in those years - the Wings, Avalanche, Stars and Lightning to be exact, and many began using the Neutral Zone trap to great success.

But guess what happened - ratings went down. People turned away, they were bored.... and after all that the NHL was on lockout and had to win back its fans.

What did they do?
They got rid of the 2 line pass rule (which enabled the neutral zone trap) which allowed more breakaways, they called more penalties (which increased scoring), put in shootouts, so there would be no more ties, and promoted new and exciting personalities.

Sure, purists complained that this was a new game with too many rules, and wasnt like the "old time hockey" they were used to. But their voices were soon silenced by money - money from ever increasing ratings and ticket sales.

Yooooo. hockey
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Serge is raping this thread. Sooner or later we're going to have the 2009 until SC5 lockout unless people admit Hilde and Algol is killing the scene.
 
Between 1995-2004? That seems like a much larger period of time than the 7months or so its been. Your analogy works I admit, but who were the ones making the changes? The fans or the people in charge of the actual game?

The ball is in Namco's court.

Going by this example, the people in charge didn't make these changes right away and they had plenty of evidence that the rule was detrimental to the game. The sport itself also relies on the fans to tune in so that they are able to make money so that's another reason why they had to at all costs get the bored spectators back. If they were scared that the fans might start to leave in say 95 (or the year they made the rule) they could have taken it away out of fear, but they did not. Why is that?
 
Guys, I know I'm totally new here... but Papy was bringing up a point how the pro-ban/anti-ban arguments hijack every other thread, stifling the ability to talk about the game seriously - and it's getting hijacked by more pro-ban/anti-ban arguments. Yes, you all have convincing arguments that will get the thread locked within 10 posts. Whee.

I try to be nice, especially when new, but I'm kinda involved in the real conversation here, and the irony is ridiculous. Can we first negotiate a place where you can have fun throwing these things at each other all day long and then you start?

edit: actually, can we just split this thread into two? Papy's and S-U's concerns deserve to be treated with respect. If you want to keep your inflammatory posts (yet you all complain about hijacked threads coming up all the time and getting locked....) let's just give you a "playtime" thread to do it in.
 
Plume said:
I'll just keep it short and as clear as possible.

There are two opinions on this issue.
The opinion of countless people who can't deal with Hilde and Algol...
Versus the opinion of Hilde and Algol players, all the 10 of them.

Which one do you think is the most important?
Should the organizers keep the 10 Hilde and Algol players happy, or should they keep the 500+ others happy instead?



Edit: And that quote is saying exactly what Something-Unique said in his thread.
Algol and Hilde seem to be ruining everything because of how they're seen by the high majority of players, no matter how balanced you think they might be.
You should matter less than the huge amount of potential players who stay away because of these two characters.
But of course it's easier to quote one sentence that sounds illogical for anyone unable to understand the real meaning, rather than a whole post from S-U.
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Don't be an ass
I'll put it bluntly now don't be an asshole...If they're are only 10 Hilde/Algol players than why is it such a problem?You'll hardly see them?(sarcasm)I'll just repeat what others have said: Give some actual proof that the "doom combo" Hilde or Algol won a tournament until I see proof I'll just dismiss the banning/patching threads as paranoia/whining/bitching.If the organizers banned characters because people thought they were "broke" then the WHOLE roster would be banned
 
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