To Bail or Not to Bail...

[Jaxel]

In the immortal words of the Dread Pirate Roberts...

LIFE IS PAIN! Anyone who is telling you otherwise, is trying to sell you something.

 

[Pendragonsfall]

Blah blah blah *quotes Hobbes*

 

[Marginal]

I have insomnia. But even if I didn't, I would NOT sleep well at night because this is NOT the way it works. If it did, unions wouldn't exist and politiciains would not get paid anywhere near the amount they do.

Unions are part of the free market aren't they? Someone wants a service, then both parties ultimately have to agree on a price for that service. If one side doesn't want to pay what the service is worth, then the providers don't have to just bend over and take whatever is thrown their way.

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

Unions are part of the free market aren't they? Someone wants a service, then both parties ultimately have to agree on a price for that service. If one side doesn't want to pay what the service is worth, then the providers don't have to just bend over and take whatever is thrown their way.

Unless of course the unions are not following the free market rule. You work in a union (the CA teacher's union is a slimeball in this regards). They take your union dues. Perfectly legal and acceptable. They then take those union dues and put it in case you go on strike. That's how GOOD unions operate.

And then there are the whack ones, who raise union due fees for political contributions. They take your money and use it to support a cause that you may not agree with. That might be something as a candidate running for office, a ballot proposition, or any other cause. And you can't say anything about it or else you won't be able to teach in a public school.

Now when people vote for legitimate policies, the unions run some stupid propoganda saying, "Oh, the poor teachers. We gotta give them more. BLAH BLAH BLAH." And the naive people fall for it. Like I said earlier, we insist that all people have equal voting power, no matter how naive or stupid they are. And yet, when we get into problems, like our state budget crisis, they don't take any of the responsibilities. That is why we can't have bail outs. We need the stupid naive people to suffer so they learn their lesson (or leave, whichever comes first). In the case of California, it seems to be the latter, as many successful people already left. So sad.

 

[Marginal]

And then there are the whack ones, who raise union due fees for political contributions. They take your money and use it to support a cause that you may not agree with. That might be something as a candidate running for office, a ballot proposition, or any other cause. And you can't say anything about it or else you won't be able to teach in a public school.

My sister's a teacher. Not a union member yet though. She looked into charter schools, but they pay nothing (awesome after 8 years of graduate work etc) and have onerous hiring processes, and can fire you whenever they like. Least the public schools presume that teaching is almost a worthwhile profession, and respect the first amendment 'cause of the unions.

A lot of what those unions have to deal with are political issues. Not surprising they developed a strong lobby.

Now when people vote for legitimate policies, the unions run some stupid propoganda saying, "Oh, the poor teachers. We gotta give them more. BLAH BLAH BLAH." And the naive people fall for it. Like I said earlier, we insist that all people have equal voting power, no matter how naive or stupid they are. And yet, when we get into problems, like our state budget crisis, they don't take any of the responsibilities. That is why we can't have bail outs. We need the stupid naive people to suffer so they learn their lesson (or leave the country, whichever comes first).

They don't really have equal voting power. That's why they're electing reps etc in the first place.

The bailouts are for those "superior" genetic specimens that ran their companies into the ground more than they are for the random street bumpkin.