To Bail or Not to Bail...

[Marginal]

According to Thomas Jefferson, a country's people should overthrow its government every 20 years in order to keep the balance of power in check. We are over 200 years behind, and now our government has so much power, it has been systematically taking away our rights.

Mao agreed with this. The cultural revolution worked so well in China.

 

[BlackDragon37]

World peace is an impossible goal because morality is subjective, not objective.

 

[Jaxel]

Mao agreed with this. The cultural revolution worked so well in China.

I love how the arguments you use to refute my arguments, only end up making it easier for me. Mao may have agreed with constant government upheaval, but when we took power, he instituted a COMMUNIST (read: Socialist, giving ultimate power to the governing body) government. Look how that worked out for China. Their government has power, and is quickly becoming a super power; but its people are in shambles, public health is a joke, and pollution is skyrocketting. The EXACT same thing that happened in the USSR.

Nothing makes the government clean up the country; if its not in the government's interest, it doesn't happen. Without a free market, nothing is taken care of. The free market actually promotes generosity and philanthrophy. As I said before, once the government touched the welfare system in 1965, welfare and unemployment stagnated. Now its getting even worse because we've had a government for the past 8 years that took even more power. Everything the government touches, turns to shit. We've seen it with the school systems, the welfare systems, the real estate system, and the healthcare system. And people expect the financial system to be different?

Stupidity isn't trying something, and failing. Stupidity is trying the same thing twice, and expecting a different result.

 

[iKotomi]

Jaxel, it's hard to take your arguments seriously when they sound like dogmatic regurgitation. Especially when your arguments are wrong.

The free market tends to find an efficient allocation. There is absolutely no evidence theoretical or pragmatic to show that it finds an equitable allocation. And it ONLY works when people follow laws. That is according to Milton Friedman, the single most influential economist regarding free market theory.

The free market can not function properly without laws, and property rights, as there is no way to correct for externalities using prices. As long as there are common goods, there will always be overproduction of bad things (like pollution), and underproduction of good things (like education).

You claim that the world is better when Dick can't pull a gun on Jane to get what he wants from Jane. Yet you provide no evidence that that's what happens in non free market economies. Because it doesn't. That happens when there is anarchy, and has nothing to do with the market structure. It happens when there are markets too, and the presence of government does not in fact increase the amount of crime.

 

[Jaxel]

You claim that the world is better when Dick can't pull a gun on Jane to get what he wants from Jane. Yet you provide no evidence that that's what happens in non free market economies. Because it doesn't. That happens when there is anarchy, and has nothing to do with the market structure. It happens when there are markets too, and the presence of government does not in fact increase the amount of crime.

Look at ANY third world country where there is a single leading power; usually a Drug Lord.

Oh... and umm... PROHIBITION. Prime example of where government intervention created crime where none had existed before.