Tekken 7 is a thing...

[Cricket]

I'm totally reading Madnis's posts in Foghorn Leghorn's voice.
"Pay attention to me, boy! I'm not just talkin' to hear my head roar."

Spoiler

 

[Madnis]

I love you.....

YOU GOT IT!!!!!

I was totally going for Foghorn Leghorn
I was going for other character personas in my other posts as well.

see if you can find them!

Except for the last one. I was trying to go for Frank Underwood, but he's too intelligent, and I tried, but came out too crass. dah well...

 

[MuffinMan123]

Just gonna leave this here.

 

[sspaajms120]

That's the thing. Making a comparison between costumes and then saying it was ripped, or even inspired is a very ludicrous thing to say. Especially when the only thing that they have in common is that they're cat ears, a jacket of sorts and a tail. I'd harly call that inspiration for Lucky Chloe. That's like making the declaration that all breakdancers were inspired from Eddy Gordo.

*sigh*
Inspiration can be drawn form anything you see,now when i said "the cat part",meaning only the cat ears and the cat gloves were inspired by the only other cat costumed character I've seen in FGs(because i haven't played all FGs),I actually meant that "only the cat parts of the costume" was inspired from her,the "totally" part comes from our usual was of talking ehn teens say "my dad is totally going to kill me",we know that they don't mean that.All FG developers have seen what their competitors have to offer,they will be competing with it and may draw inspirations from it.Saying that i can't compare two characters who look similar in some way,is like saying that i can't compare a tiger with a lion.

Are you serious? So the opinions of those who believe that global warming doesn't exist is a valid opinion and thus can't be wrong, because there is no such thing as a wrong opinion. Understand something that's based in reality and not your mother's lectures to make you feel better. Your opinion has weight only if it's a credible source. Your idea has merit if AND ONLY IF you know what you're talking about. OF WHICH, you don't.

I'm speaking to you about this topic from a professional and academic standpoint. My opinion has more weight than yours. So yes. You can have bad ideas. You can make wrong assumptions. and your opinion has ZERO credibility.
it's like you're someone who's ignorant of science, trying to educate Neil Degrasse Tyson on astrophysics. And when he tries to tell you what's what, you come back and say something stupid like, "my opinion is valid because it's my opinion."

Just because its not wrong doesn't mean that its correct,an opinion is what i think about something,like if smeone asks me, to look at a book and say what i think of it, and i say "It looks boring",can that be considered right or wrong?
Neither fit,it may be to some,and may not be to others.
I know what i'm talking about,i'm talking about a part of a character's costume resembling a part of another character's costume.
If you are by profession a designer,then it is possible for you to draw inspiration from ANYTHING you have seen in you life.If someone,compares your work to something you have seen in your life,and if there is any similarity,then that comparison can be considered true,because there is a similarity.

Again, the characters I showed you in that big hero 6 video HAD NO TALKING. Only actions. Yet you were able to read their personalities clearly based on their actions. If you pay attention to the way Lucky Chloe carries herself, in her actions as well as words, you can read into her personality.

She's is a cheerful character, but also has a flare for dramatics, and the makings of a TV personality. She's upbeat and playful, and can dance. Thus she has rhythm. She is the makings of a pop idol. very much like that Miku character. Again, she will be the spokesgirl for Tekken. When the game is introduced to folks in and around the world, expect a cosplay of Lucky Chloe to accompany Harada. BECAUSE HER CHARACTER IMMEDIATELY LENDS ITSELF TO THIS ROLE.

As for it being common and one-dimensional, this is a fighting game. Most characters tend to be one-dimensional, and haven't grown in I don't know, ever? They all match up with archtypes but guess what? IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BE A POP IDOL, How would you expect them to act? moody? melancholic? or excited, cheerful and happy?

Do yourself a favor.

admit you don't know anything. Apologize. and come on in for a hug.

Harada has said nothing about her origins or role,most people have identified her as a TV personality,but then again,Harada has tweeted "She has a big secret".So that COULD mean that she's not a TV pop idol,it could mean anything.
One dimensional characters are all there is but the "cheerful" personality is shared by so many characters,that is is becoming annoying,since tekken 3,every new female(besides zafina and leo) have this personality.Females can also be rude,cocky,arrogant,determined,this cheerful stereotyping is in itself sexist,and its from the developers themselves.

And do yourself a favor,admit that your overreacting,that is the only sensible thing to do,people can say anything,you shouldn't be easily offended by everything.

This discussion is literally based on the stupid comment that you said out of ignorance about her visual design.
Taokaka? really? As for movelist, I have no qualms about her moves as I don't know her entire movelist. From what I've seen, it's not bad at all. Her moves isn't what we're talking about. WE'RE talking about her visual design.

Again,a "part" of her costume,what part of the word "part" is so confusing here?
A thousand crush moves and flips,yeah its nothing new.Even Bob,a male character has those,they may be good but they're not new,like marduk and Steve were in tekken 4,or Raven,Feng,Lili and Dragunov were in tekken 5,and every character in tekken 6,they were all completely new.Now,we're just getting a new character with old moves,and i'm supposed to be happy about it?

And, if you're buying the game because of one character than you really are stupid. But the opportunity that Lucky Chloe presents goes beyond gameplay because again, She is a pop idol. She is a tv personality. She can advertise the game. much like this:

she owns them.

Aren't that current characters not good enough for advertisement?

how sexist of you to mention only the female fighters in the game. Any character that looks like they're willing to scrap are fighters.

All those characters you listed? have shown athletic ability not just in their visual design, but in their actions as well.
So apparently, yes. They look like fighters.

So you want gender equality?
Fine,Sebastian,Bob & Wang also don't look like they can fight.
Their athletic ability is just the moves that the developers gave them,Bob's physical appearance disagrees with the athletic capability he displays,most female's physical appearance also disagrees with what they can do,i mean does Xiaoyu really look like she can toss around Marduk?

So my point is that the reason for the negative backlash is not "she doesn't look like a fighter",the only female character that i can think of who looks like a fighter is Taki.

Then again for equality,why don't people go ahead and ask the developers to make cocky,arrogant,psychotic or evil females huh?
Because they only want females to look cute,that is all.

case in point:

Your mother can look like a fighter when she needs to. Your mother can look like a saint and a calm little thing when she needs to. But does she look like a fighter on the regular? No. That's what it means to be multi-dimensional.

In that case, I guess Xiaoyu, Leo, Lucky Chloe, Asuka, Zafina, Nina and Anna all are multidimensional characters.

You don't know what a fighter looks like.

pretty obvious if you actually watch the video and not say "oh i hate this character". I'm sure you can easily see her being a tv personality.


Well you know what? If you insist on it, and constantly putting it out into the universe that energy of want and need for madnis to call you stupid.

Then here it is..

You're stupid.

Your actions are stupid. Your replies have been stupid. Making me go and dissect your post is stupid, because at least then I might have missed something. Even trying to discuss with me the idea that you know what you're talking about is stupid. Because you have proven again and again that you don't. And then when I try to help you, educate you, and correct you, again. I AM A PROFESSIONAL in this industry, as well as AN ACADEMIC. I know what I'm talking about. But the fact that you hide behind "it's my opinion and I can't be wrong because it's my opinion" is stupid.

Your actions have consistently proven otherwise beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are stupid. So congratulations.

And all you've shown is extreme butthurt,and incapability to accept a tiny comparision between two characters.If you overreact this much,you might as well put me on your ignore list,because if I see a similarity between two things,even if its a very tiny similarity,i will highlight it and compare it.

University teachers who are full time and have an expansive background in education get paid well that they can live a comfortable life. It also depends on the university they're teaching at because said university requires a certain caliber of instructor. Not to mention, cost of living. Most schools, and most places of education, the teachers aren't paid much.

Whether they are paid enough is judged by what they can do to their students,some of my own teachers i think are not paid enough,while others i believe are paid too much,even though they both have the same salary.Nevertheless teaching is a paid job.

But I also like that you're trying to tell me that teachers don't want to teach and are just in it because they couldn't land a better job. But they still get paid well. Ha. Teachers teach because they love education. I teach because it's amazes me when a student comes in and knows nothing of the program they're working on and in ten weeks they can produce studio quality work. The fact that I had a hand in their learning process is an extreme honor. Don't take that kinda shit lightly.

I didn't say that about all teachers,only those who have themselves said so,teaching a person something takes skill and effort,while some have that skill,they are unwilling to put in the effort,and others who

Need I need more proof of your blatant stupidity?
CASE after CASE after CASE.

The fact that you're not reading my posts to understand what i'm trying to say,and just reading to reply,is in itself stupid,when i say "a part of" you always read it as "all of".That is stupid,that is ignorant,that is butthurt.

If the ideas behind your posts had weight, say an interview where they expressly said your claims and not your own "oh this is what I think happened", I'd take you more seriously.

You see, I also take issue with this because I have friends who work their asses off coming up with the characters for you to shit on and you make it seem like Harada went to the art director and said I want a character that looks like this and hands them 3 drawings and then he tells them to make a combination of them all.

Thats human.I will say that which i can see.

It all starts with this question:
What is my character's job/function?

and it grows into there with the rest of her persona, which includes visual designs.

But here you come and say something stupid like, THEY RIPPED OFF no excuse me THEY WERE INSPIRED BY TAOKAKA, EILEEN, AND MARIE ROSE FROM DOA!! NAMCOBANDAI SUCKS! HARADA SUCKS! TEKKEN SUCKS!

Yeah, you don't sound stupid and ignorant at all.

So what you're trying to say is,that no matter how similar two characters look,even if they look the same,there is no chance that they were insipired by each other.If i was "ignorant" then i would make that assumption,i would not try to accept the fact that they actually look similar,instead i would "ignore" other's claims and explanations and say they are definitely unique and original,like you are.

this isn't a debate. This is education.
I'm teaching you about yourself, and the stupidity that holds you, and I'm going to make you grow into someone
who isn't completely stupid. Especially when you're discussing a topic as broad as character design.
You should go to your school and thank your teachers, boy. They're doing you a great service.
You're just too stupid to see it.

until your next lesson, boy.

What you seem to be doing,is just reading half of my words,twisting their meaning beyond belief and calling me stupid about it.I know that my teachers are doing a great deal for me,I have only them to thank for all my achievements,but SOME of they have admitted themselves that they would do something else if they could,when I share that with you,you're like "so you think that all teachers teach because they couldn't do anything better?",all this ignorance is all from you.

You have only taught me that some people in this world can be very over-reactive,and it is best not to interact with such people,and for that I thank you.If you can show me how this character is unique,then do so.If this character design took a lot of effort,then show me how it did so.

 

[Madnis]

A forward.

Before responding to @sspaajms120 I wanted to address everyone else.
I hope you guys realize he's trolling, and while humoring him I'm also taking the time
to educate you guys a little bit of what all goes into designing a character.

Most of what I say is directed at him, but the knowledge I'm giving is useful.

Therefore, if a nitwit actually tries to tell you what's what, you can also go and educate that person
a little bit as well. Also, if you have a friend or a classmate who you see doodling, you can help
that person improve his/her character. And thus contribute to the character's design.

What kind of professor would I be if I didn't profess my knowledge to those who actually listen?
I'm also more than willing to take questions.
And now, on with the show.