Tekken 7 is a thing...

[Windstar]

Scoot over and give me some too.

 

[MuffinMan123]

Eh, Lucky Chloe is really just a product of Akihabara subculture.

 

[sspaajms120]

indeed. You're wrong in that you would make an assumption based off the fact you have absolutely little to no idea what's happening at namco bandai.. but you can throw out that guess because.. OH I KNOW! cat ears, cat paws, and tail. That is such inspiration... again. you're reaching.

yes. I win.

No,you don't win,what you still don't understand is that i was only comparing a part of the costume,not the personalities or the backstories or poses.

What made me upset is that you base your hate off an assumption that's wrong. You give a wrong opinion, and you want to act like you know what you're talkin about. When you hav absolutely 0 clue.

Unless my assumption is absolutely wrong,and get this,there is no such thing as a "wrong opinion",opinions are ideas,they can't be wrong.

case in point. I just told you we get an idea about her personality from the entire trailer. and you're stuck on intro/outro poses.

Moves don't give an idea of personality,only their stories and intro/outro poses.If you think that it does,then explain this personality,i can only think of "cheerful"which is extremely common and one-dimensional.

Are you serious? So because she's based on japanese stereotypes, we have no clue what she's about? really? Son,
just stop.

So if you have an idea of what she's about then explain it,because i don't see it.

this discussion is about character design. The flaws in your knowledge, or lack there of on the topic, and really how your opinion means absolutely nothing. As a designer, both professionally and academically I find this need to educate you. So I'm glad you finally met someone with conviction.

this discussion is about the character in general,i am disappointed with the design,but i can change it to my liking via the customization mode,what i can't change is the movelist,that is only in the developer's power,and imo,this is a wasted opportunity,my opinion means as much as i will be paying for the game,which is going to be a lot as tjis is a next-gen game.

no son, because I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. I'm looking at you as if you're stupid means you're acting stupid so you should be treated as such. That doesn't mean you're stupid, or that I'm calling you stupid. It means you're acting that way. In which case, correct yourself, or carry on.

Again if you are saying that i'm acting stupid,then you think that i am stupid,hence you are calling me stupid,to which i simply have to say,absolutely not.

you wrote it in the beginning.. kinda redundant at this point to bring it up.

sarcasm must not be a foreign language to you,i don't see why you couldn't understand.

correction. a bear that stands on it's hind legs and has a mean disposition looks like a fighter .
you see.. anybody can look like a fighter, if they have the mean disposition and looks like they want to kick your ass, they look like a fighter. So yes, a bear can look like a fighter.


and here's the crux of it. HERE'S THE REAL ISSUE. You're scared. Afraid. And hurt. As I said in my initial post,
This is what it all boils down to.

You're scared that she, someone who doesn't look like they would fit in the realm of tekken took the spot of some other character that you have grown to accept. You have no clue about the complete roster. And you're scared.

and there you have it. That's the real reason.

you have no real clue what character design means. You just know you don't like her, and so you use "design" as a scapegoat.

So you're saying that Xiaoyu,Leo,Lili,Asuka,Zafina,Nina and Anna look like fighters?
Real fighters actually wear protective gear and look like they can and would fight,so most characters in the game don't look like fighters,its not about her not fitting in,most tekken characters don't look like fighters.

consider yourself educated.

also, FYI Teachers don't get paid very well. College adjunct professors especially, don't get paid very well. At some institutions I'm sure they get paid decent. But it is nowhere near a high paying job. I make more money freelancing than I do teaching. And I teach mainly because I enjoy teaching. and when I'm freelancing, it's only for a limited time.

when was the last time you saw a teacher driving around a high class luxury car that costs around 80k? I've been going to several schools both as a student and a teacher, I never saw a teacher/professor driving in something that costs over 50k.

Umm,University teachers get paid enought to rival doctors,maybe not where you live but here where i live,they sure do,most teachers teach here because they were beat to other better jobs,hence have nothing else to do,most don't even want to teach.

good day, boy.

until the next ignorant post of yours.

well the very fact that i'm taking my time to answer your pride filled posts are for a fact an indication that i'm not ignorant.It is you who is ignoring the ideas behind my posts.

Now,this thread is meant to be a general discussion and public opinion expression point for the game,this is not a debate forum,do you really want to continue this?

 

[Madnis]

No,you don't win,what you still don't understand is that i was only comparing a part of the costume,not the personalities or the backstories or poses.

That's the thing. Making a comparison between costumes and then saying it was ripped, or even inspired is a very ludicrous thing to say. Especially when the only thing that they have in common is that they're cat ears, a jacket of sorts and a tail. I'd harly call that inspiration for Lucky Chloe. That's like making the declaration that all breakdancers were inspired from Eddy Gordo.

Unless my assumption is absolutely wrong,and get this,there is no such thing as a "wrong opinion",opinions are ideas,they can't be wrong.

Are you serious? So the opinions of those who believe that global warming doesn't exist is a valid opinion and thus can't be wrong, because there is no such thing as a wrong opinion. Understand something that's based in reality and not your mother's lectures to make you feel better. Your opinion has weight only if it's a credible source. Your idea has merit if AND ONLY IF you know what you're talking about. OF WHICH, you don't.

I'm speaking to you about this topic from a professional and academic standpoint. My opinion has more weight than yours. So yes. You can have bad ideas. You can make wrong assumptions. and your opinion has ZERO credibility.
it's like you're someone who's ignorant of science, trying to educate Neil Degrasse Tyson on astrophysics. And when he tries to tell you what's what, you come back and say something stupid like, "my opinion is valid because it's my opinion."

Moves don't give an idea of personality,only their stories and intro/outro poses.If you think that it does,then explain this personality,i can only think of "cheerful"which is extremely common and one-dimensional.

Again, the characters I showed you in that big hero 6 video HAD NO TALKING. Only actions. Yet you were able to read their personalities clearly based on their actions. If you pay attention to the way Lucky Chloe carries herself, in her actions as well as words, you can read into her personality.

She's is a cheerful character, but also has a flare for dramatics, and the makings of a TV personality. She's upbeat and playful, and can dance. Thus she has rhythm. She is the makings of a pop idol. very much like that Miku character. Again, she will be the spokesgirl for Tekken. When the game is introduced to folks in and around the world, expect a cosplay of Lucky Chloe to accompany Harada. BECAUSE HER CHARACTER IMMEDIATELY LENDS ITSELF TO THIS ROLE.

As for it being common and one-dimensional, this is a fighting game. Most characters tend to be one-dimensional, and haven't grown in I don't know, ever? They all match up with archtypes but guess what? IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BE A POP IDOL, How would you expect them to act? moody? melancholic? or excited, cheerful and happy?

Do yourself a favor.

admit you don't know anything. Apologize. and come on in for a hug.

this discussion is about the character in general,i am disappointed with the design,but i can change it to my liking via the customization mode,what i can't change is the movelist,that is only in the developer's power,and imo,this is a wasted opportunity,my opinion means as much as i will be paying for the game,which is going to be a lot as tjis is a next-gen game.

This discussion is literally based on the stupid comment that you said out of ignorance about her visual design.
Taokaka? really? As for movelist, I have no qualms about her moves as I don't know her entire movelist. From what I've seen, it's not bad at all. Her moves isn't what we're talking about. WE'RE talking about her visual design.

And, if you're buying the game because of one character than you really are stupid. But the opportunity that Lucky Chloe presents goes beyond gameplay because again, She is a pop idol. She is a tv personality. She can advertise the game. much like this:

she owns them.

So you're saying that Xiaoyu,Leo,Lili,Asuka,Zafina,Nina and Anna look like fighters?
Real fighters actually wear protective gear and look like they can and would fight,so most characters in the game don't look like fighters,its not about her not fitting in,most tekken characters don't look like fighters.

how sexist of you to mention only the female fighters in the game. Any character that looks like they're willing to scrap are fighters.

All those characters you listed? have shown athletic ability not just in their visual design, but in their actions as well.
So apparently, yes. They look like fighters.

case in point:

Your mother can look like a fighter when she needs to. Your mother can look like a saint and a calm little thing when she needs to. But does she look like a fighter on the regular? No. That's what it means to be multi-dimensional.

In that case, I guess Xiaoyu, Leo, Lucky Chloe, Asuka, Zafina, Nina and Anna all are multidimensional characters.

So if you have an idea of what she's about then explain it,because i don't see it.

pretty obvious if you actually watch the video and not say "oh i hate this character". I'm sure you can easily see her being a tv personality.

Again if you are saying that i'm acting stupid,then you think that i am stupid,hence you are calling me stupid,to which i simply have to say,absolutely not.

Well you know what? If you insist on it, and constantly putting it out into the universe that energy of want and need for madnis to call you stupid.

Then here it is..

You're stupid.

Your actions are stupid. Your replies have been stupid. Making me go and dissect your post is stupid, because at least then I might have missed something. Even trying to discuss with me the idea that you know what you're talking about is stupid. Because you have proven again and again that you don't. And then when I try to help you, educate you, and correct you, again. I AM A PROFESSIONAL in this industry, as well as AN ACADEMIC. I know what I'm talking about. But the fact that you hide behind "it's my opinion and I can't be wrong because it's my opinion" is stupid.

Your actions have consistently proven otherwise beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are stupid. So congratulations.
You're stupid.

Now educate yourself, but first.. Just take the L. You lost this.

meanwhile, let it be said that the universe does grant your wishes. So be careful what you wish for.

sarcasm must not be a foreign language to you,i don't see why you couldn't understand.

Indeed. I can be quite sarcastic.
I'm not surprised you couldn't see what I was doing.

Umm,University teachers get paid enought to rival doctors,maybe not where you live but here where i live,they sure do,most teachers teach here because they were beat to other better jobs,hence have nothing else to do,most don't even want to teach.

University teachers who are full time and have an expansive background in education get paid well that they can live a comfortable life. It also depends on the university they're teaching at because said university requires a certain caliber of instructor. Not to mention, cost of living. Most schools, and most places of education, the teachers aren't paid much.

But I also like that you're trying to tell me that teachers don't want to teach and are just in it because they couldn't land a better job. But they still get paid well. Ha. Teachers teach because they love education. I teach because it's amazes me when a student comes in and knows nothing of the program they're working on and in ten weeks they can produce studio quality work. The fact that I had a hand in their learning process is an extreme honor. Don't take that kinda shit lightly.

Need I need more proof of your blatant stupidity?
CASE after CASE after CASE.

you're showing me the depth of your stupidity, and so far it knows no bounds.

well the very fact that i'm taking my time to answer your pride filled posts are for a fact an indication that i'm not ignorant.It is you who is ignoring the ideas behind my posts.

Now,this thread is meant to be a general discussion and public opinion expression point for the game,this is not a debate forum,do you really want to continue this?

If the ideas behind your posts had weight, say an interview where they expressly said your claims and not your own "oh this is what I think happened", I'd take you more seriously.

You see, I also take issue with this because I have friends who work their asses off coming up with the characters for you to shit on and you make it seem like Harada went to the art director and said I want a character that looks like this and hands them 3 drawings and then he tells them to make a combination of them all.

That's no where near what happens in the art room, and no where near what happens when the character designer is asked to come up with a design.

It all starts with this question:
What is my character's job/function?

and it grows into there with the rest of her persona, which includes visual designs.

But here you come and say something stupid like, THEY RIPPED OFF no excuse me THEY WERE INSPIRED BY TAOKAKA, EILEEN, AND MARIE ROSE FROM DOA!! NAMCOBANDAI SUCKS! HARADA SUCKS! TEKKEN SUCKS!

Yeah, you don't sound stupid and ignorant at all.

Now,this thread is meant to be a general discussion and public opinion expression point for the game,this is not a debate forum,do you really want to continue this?

this isn't a debate. This is education.
I'm teaching you about yourself, and the stupidity that holds you, and I'm going to make you grow into someone
who isn't completely stupid. Especially when you're discussing a topic as broad as character design.
You should go to your school and thank your teachers, boy. They're doing you a great service.
You're just too stupid to see it.

until your next lesson, boy.

 

[CFW]

Amazing