Teh Gheys Thread

Well this has certainly taken a turn for the worse. All of you need to chill the fuck out.

@Xyerith @Slade telling people to go kill themselves and stop using big words does not prove your point; it just makes America look like shit. Your posts are factually accurate and logically sound, but FUCK do they come off as condescending and trollish. What exactly do you expect from writing like that? Get off your high horses.

@UndeadFlamingo It's very telling when someone who doesn't live in America tries to "educate" American homosexuals and minorities about how oppressed they are. Have you considered the possibility that maybe America isn't actually the ISIS-tier deranged caricature that tumblr makes it out to be? I'm a homosexual Hispanic and I have literally never been discriminated against since I moved to this country. You might want to look at the world with a bit more nuance than "everyone who disagrees with me is a bigoted religious dudebro." For instance:
if a white supremacist teenager shoots up a church he doesn't even get handcuffed
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Slade would you stop acting like a bitter piece of hipster trash?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...nspired-by-justice-thomas-obergefell-dissent/ Here why Thomas Dissent was bullshit, Too long to read? Well, he ignores any meaning other than the one he gives.
Interesting article. The impression I got from it, however, is that Thomas' opinion is incomplete, not incorrect. It's important to note that Thomas joined in Roberts' dissent, which did address the equal protection argument. As for the freedom of contract argument, that didn't seem to play a role in the majority opinion, or the claims brought by the petitioners and their amici.
Also I won't even bother with the dumb ass who tried to imply that marriage can be found in Historical roots, ignoring the civilizations with same sex unions.
You mean Kennedy? Because that's as much a part of the opinion of the court as it is Robert's dissent.
No need to patronize me, I speak the language fluently and have since the age of 8, don't get sarky with me.
Fair enough.
Do you know how the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq where to impose democracy on the Middle East?
Interventionism is a tricky business, and one I'm not entirely decided on. Saddam was a pretty nasty dictator, though.
What we Europeans try to do is the same thing with the US, but with other important things such as healthcare and equality. I do realise that it's hard to take advice from a socialist wasteland like Denmark, where people aren't expected to pay not to die
I'm not prepared to commit to a position on socialized medicine.
and where a police officer gets litigated against and loses his job if he shoots an unarmed kid.
This is an issue, but I disagree with the characterization along racial lines. The killings of Eric Garner and Walter Scott were reprehensible murders; the homicides of Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin* were justified acts of self defense. Whether or not these are isolated incidents is difficult to tell, and the lack of good data plays a big role in that. Most of these incidents are just as adequately explained by officer incompetence due to insufficient training and discipline (such as the tendency to jump immediately to the tail end of the continuum of force) and the unwillingness of officers to testify against their colleagues (anti-snitch mentality) as they are by racism. Transparency and known efficacy strike me as sufficient reasons to mandate policies like body cameras for police officers and a national database for statistics on police homicides. These artificial media controversies do little more than put police and civilians in danger.
* Not a police shooting, but the media reaction was nearly identical.
Oh, and our constitution was written in 1849 and almost wholly rewritten in 1949, something you might want to consider when major events change the makeup of your country.
It's much easier to subvert the Constitution here than to amend it, which is why we see cases like this one.
Actually I didn't mention the Clintons because as far as I'm aware Hillary is the second candidate from that family, and the Bushes outweigh that with three. But if I'm wrong, do tell.
The oligarchy argument is greatly strengthened by noting that the potential nominees from both parties come from these kinds of families. Either way, it's a bit early to tell. I think there's still hope that Jeb won't get the Republican nomination.
And of course, racism is wholly over in the United States. The Klu Klux Klan has been disbanded because they all realised what absolute fools they looked and the Confederate flag has been cleansed of all charges of being linked to a segregated, non-United States army bent on preserving slavery.
No one is seriously contending that racism is over. However, the claim that racism is still entrenched in our laws and institutions is an empirical one, and the evidence is sorely lacking.
LOLOLOLOLOLOL Go Kill yourself faggot. Good job and further showing me why I should just outright ignore you.
I don't condone this. Don't assume that someone is arguing in bad faith and use it as justification to do the same.
 
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@UndeadFlamingo It's very telling when someone who doesn't live in America tries to "educate" American homosexuals and minorities about how oppressed they are. Have you considered the possibility that maybe America isn't actually the ISIS-tier deranged caricature that tumblr makes it out to be? I'm a homosexual Hispanic and I have literally never been discriminated against since I moved to this country. You might want to look at the world with a bit more nuance than "everyone who disagrees with me is a bigoted religious dudebro." For instance:

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I realise that I must've sounded very condescending, which I'm sorry for. Also, just a pedantic note, but it's not "everyone who disagrees with me", it's on this particular matter that I've never met anyone who fit any other description who argued for that case, but I suppose I've not yet met conservative gays. On the Charleston matter, I was referring spefically to the arrest, wherein he wasn't handcuffed, but yes, I left it ambiguous and it sounded like I thought he'd get no punishment at all, which is of course bollocks. I also wasn't trying to educate homosexuals and minorities about how opressed they are, I just did what was evidently a mistake and read what Slade had written and automatically didn't figure him for either, which was wrong. I don't recall having ever interacted with him before, so in as anonymous a context as it is I'd say it's an understandable mistake, if not a justifiable one.

Anyway, that's that, I suppose. I won't be writing more here. Not gonna kill myself as was so fervently suggested, but it has kinda torn a hole in my life in its own stupid way. Hope you appreciate that.
 
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