Hate Speech: The Best Laid Plans...
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[06] Combatant
I really enjoyed having a stream dedicated to the non-Capcom games, I think I only looked up the Sp00ky stream once or twice for a few minutes. Honestly, I was surprised at how quickly some of the players were picking up SC5, it's clear that the core fundamentals do translate and after that, a little experimentation. Ramon's performance was particularly impressive. Dirty D's idgaf face was epic though.
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[12] Conqueror
nice article.
I too have reservations about the new game, but I wont delve into that right now.
1/31/12....... So close now :)
I too have reservations about the new game, but I wont delve into that right now.
1/31/12....... So close now :)
Malice
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A few things:
1. Woahhzz is the best at SC4.
2. The game that lost its luster is Tekken 6. Two years in a row it had a bad reception at EVO, nobody wants to watch it when it's streamed, and I could see for myself the numbers it was doing at NEC when it was on compared to when it wasn't. But alot of people still come out for the game at NEC.
Maybe SC4 has for the people on the outside looking in, but I can't agree with that statement when the thread for NEC had over 80 pages to it, there were a bunch of setups for the game at NEC that people were constantly playing on, people playing matches to 6AM in the morning or later, people spending alot of money just to fly in, France flying in for the second year in a row to NEC, and a ton of people entering a tournament for a 3 year old "broken" game with a ridiculous amount of talented players. Not to mention the people who still play this game online. Even with SC5 in the building, I did not see a station for SC4 where someone wasn't playing on it.
3. If a year and a half ago you were to tell me that Project Soul would be coming to my city to show off SCV and spend hours upon hours answering people's questions about the game until late at night, I would have told you that you were crazy.
4. Clean hit is not an issue. Most people didn't even notice it until recently, when for me it was one of the first things that I saw once the status messages were put into the game. See Idle's post about it on the forum.
5. Soulcalibur received plenty of air time. I was helping out Jaxel record hour long blocks to put on YouTube. As for the actual SC4 tournament being streamed, it wasn't an issue of fighting with other games for air time, but a problem which delayed the start of the actual tournament. But the 6 on 6 and top 4 were streamed though, along with plenty of SC5.
The problem that I had with the previous games is that it was boring to watch. 3D games can be very dry to watch unless you know what's going on or have great commentary to go with it to keep the people engaged, or talk a bunch of shit to entertain people. But SC5 has all the ingredients to really blow up. It's fun to play and fun to watch. Hopefully when it does come out, people run with it and do great things.
6. To Aneudee's point about SC5 having some broken stuff, even with the location testing and being in the arcade, Tag 2 still has broken stuff in the game. Plus how does the game being in the hands of less people find stuff quicker? But from hearing the devs answers in regards to patching, I have no worries about SC5. Plus the game has been around to alot of events for people to play, so it's not like the game hasn't had any location testing.
7. For the majority of people, the book on SC4 was closed after EVO 2009. This NEC closes the book on the game in tournaments, and what better way than to have someone who lives two minutes away from where NEC was held to win the last major tournament for the game. But there will still be plenty of people playing the game online.
As for me, I hear the stories from people of when the new game comes out, the previous one is tossed aside or used as a coaster, but that won't be the case for me. I love SC4 and have too many memories with the game to just throw it away once the newer, hotter, more attractive version comes along. SC5 would have to be perfect in every way for me to do something like that. But I'll still continue to play SC4, along with the older games with anyone who wants to play them.
SC5 will be that hot, young 2nd wife that will get the majority of my attention. SC4 will be the older first wife when I want something familiar to fall back on.
8. Fuck yo sickness Hates. I don't know how you and Serge get sick on the same weekend. You two were surely missed.
1. Woahhzz is the best at SC4.
2. The game that lost its luster is Tekken 6. Two years in a row it had a bad reception at EVO, nobody wants to watch it when it's streamed, and I could see for myself the numbers it was doing at NEC when it was on compared to when it wasn't. But alot of people still come out for the game at NEC.
Maybe SC4 has for the people on the outside looking in, but I can't agree with that statement when the thread for NEC had over 80 pages to it, there were a bunch of setups for the game at NEC that people were constantly playing on, people playing matches to 6AM in the morning or later, people spending alot of money just to fly in, France flying in for the second year in a row to NEC, and a ton of people entering a tournament for a 3 year old "broken" game with a ridiculous amount of talented players. Not to mention the people who still play this game online. Even with SC5 in the building, I did not see a station for SC4 where someone wasn't playing on it.
3. If a year and a half ago you were to tell me that Project Soul would be coming to my city to show off SCV and spend hours upon hours answering people's questions about the game until late at night, I would have told you that you were crazy.
4. Clean hit is not an issue. Most people didn't even notice it until recently, when for me it was one of the first things that I saw once the status messages were put into the game. See Idle's post about it on the forum.
5. Soulcalibur received plenty of air time. I was helping out Jaxel record hour long blocks to put on YouTube. As for the actual SC4 tournament being streamed, it wasn't an issue of fighting with other games for air time, but a problem which delayed the start of the actual tournament. But the 6 on 6 and top 4 were streamed though, along with plenty of SC5.
The problem that I had with the previous games is that it was boring to watch. 3D games can be very dry to watch unless you know what's going on or have great commentary to go with it to keep the people engaged, or talk a bunch of shit to entertain people. But SC5 has all the ingredients to really blow up. It's fun to play and fun to watch. Hopefully when it does come out, people run with it and do great things.
6. To Aneudee's point about SC5 having some broken stuff, even with the location testing and being in the arcade, Tag 2 still has broken stuff in the game. Plus how does the game being in the hands of less people find stuff quicker? But from hearing the devs answers in regards to patching, I have no worries about SC5. Plus the game has been around to alot of events for people to play, so it's not like the game hasn't had any location testing.
7. For the majority of people, the book on SC4 was closed after EVO 2009. This NEC closes the book on the game in tournaments, and what better way than to have someone who lives two minutes away from where NEC was held to win the last major tournament for the game. But there will still be plenty of people playing the game online.
As for me, I hear the stories from people of when the new game comes out, the previous one is tossed aside or used as a coaster, but that won't be the case for me. I love SC4 and have too many memories with the game to just throw it away once the newer, hotter, more attractive version comes along. SC5 would have to be perfect in every way for me to do something like that. But I'll still continue to play SC4, along with the older games with anyone who wants to play them.
SC5 will be that hot, young 2nd wife that will get the majority of my attention. SC4 will be the older first wife when I want something familiar to fall back on.
8. Fuck yo sickness Hates. I don't know how you and Serge get sick on the same weekend. You two were surely missed.