Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate

The gist of what Gatsu's saying, if I understand correctly, is that DOA is a game with overall mediocre design and a combat system that doesn't suit his tastes 100%, but at the same time still enjoys sinking some time in here and there.

Is that it, or am I way off base?
 

So apparently because DOA doesn't have over-the-top designs it's apparently mediocre artistically? If I'm not mistaken DOA is consistently the best looking fighting game out there combining a sense of realism with a light cartoonish and pseudo-anime look (DOA5 scaled back on the anime look though). SC's designs are nice but that more so has to do with the time period's influence and the supernatural tilt of some characters. SF's designs are ok, but I do love SF4's visual style.

From a gameplay standpoint you can't exactly compare SF to DOA because that's essentially 2D vs. 3D game design. SF has quicker pokes but less flow between said pokes. DOA's strings flow more smoothly and most combos revolve around juggles and environmental impacts. SF4 in comparison tends to have combos based around chain-links or chaining certain pokes or special moves together as opposed to a focus on juggles.

SC and DOA are also tricky to compare because SC's weapon-based gameplay allows for much more variation in attack ranges. SC's combos are achieved either off of stuns or light juggles (or in Viola's case, Tekken style near TOD combos). I like both SC & DOA but for different reasons. Both games have a lot of depth and can be played competitively. Compared to some other fighting games, SC definitely does not have any more emphasis on a single hit than DOA. Marvel 3 and Tekken Tag 2 would like a word with you.

From what it sounds like, you'd probably prefer Tekken or VF if you prefer rough and stiffer gameplay (or UMvC3 for TOD combos). If you want to get major damage off a single hit, main Bass and set the health bar to "Smallest". If you find other series appealing, go with those series and don't bother your self with DOA.

Also your points about the male characters being "weak" is plain wrong. There's just as many male characters as female characters and they're just as likely to be top-tier. Check out Jann Lee, Gen Fu or Bayman for example. Jacky Bryant also is in no way any more "charismatic" than a DOA character especially Hayabusa. Akira maybe though, but he's just plain badass.
 
About Gatsu....

More or less. In general, think of him as a hardcore "I like good character designs with good feel on controls". DOA happens to be packed with fanservice with some animu stuff so it's no surprise why he finds it to be "okay".

If you stick around his CAS thread, you can probably see what he's more into character design wise despite making ridiculously good CAS stuff. He's not into cutesy desu animu ninja girl, oh my god he's a hot twilight animu guy, or some DBZ spiky haired hungry animu kid. Give him a badass antihero ronin, a hero who will vanquish evil, or a proud female princess knight with armor. I will tell you he's more into Mitsurugi, Hwang, and Hilde as characters than say Natsu, Xiba, and ZWEI. More on the cool badass than the anime kids gen.

Then you'll have a happy Gatsu. In this case, Leon and Ein are the characters he likes most. I can see why. Leon can smack a bitch and be manly about it since he don't care. Ein is well......hmmmm I'll let him answer that haha.


Looking forward to the new DOA while trying to master Kokoro....although Brad seems like tons of fun.
 
Looking forward to the new DOA while trying to master Kokoro....although Brad seems like tons of fun.

Oh, he is. He's pure shenanigans and at least as slow as Bass, but he's a blast to play as. Despite my attempts to pride myself in maining Mila, it may be safer to say I main Brad at the moment.
 
The gist of what Gatsu's saying, if I understand correctly, is that DOA is a game with overall mediocre design and a combat system that doesn't suit his tastes 100%, but at the same time still enjoys sinking some time in here and there.

Is that it, or am I way off base?

More or less

I will change "mediocre design" with "still good but faaar from top stuff", but overall that's the point
 
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