Critical Edge: A Brief History of Banning...

[lolo]

Jaxel, somehow this feels wrong, is plain wrong, you are not discussing to ban or unban a char, put it simple, if we have all the characters unlocked, you may have decide wich chars to ban due to balance issues, but in this case is freaking easier, even with all the characters unlocked, you won't have to worry if someone pick it up in the tournament, they simply can't... And why is that?... Because is not a character...

I really appreciate the leadership that you are trying to show, is needed, but for now your first proposal is just wrong, if you wouldn't have brought this subject to the table, this discussion wouldn't exist cause nobody is taking DJ serious, is a bonus... Maybe some whore tiers and gimmicky players were praying for this to happen, but that's it.

Once again, we are not discussing about a character, Yoda, Apprentice, Hilde, Vader, Link, Heihachi, Necrid, etc... Those were characters, not this.

 

[d3v]

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I'd go with EVO rules simply because it's impossible to tell a game's balance off the first day, first month or even the first year of play. EVO has seen multiple games where it took years before the games definitive tier list came out: it took a few years before the Japanese cracked 3rd Strike and proved that Yun, Ken and Mak could stand up to Chun dominance; meanwhile, the MvC2 top tiers back in 2000 (lol Iceman, Doom, Spiral) look almost nothing like the top tier today. All banning because of "balance" at this point in time is limit the game's growth.

The only type of ban that is justifyable this early on is one for logistical reasons. DJ as a CAS would be a PITA to manage for most TOs. The only way that Daishi can say that he's tournament ready is likely because they're making an actual DJ model as DLC somewhere down the line.

 

[Aqua_Snake]

Like the majority here, I oppose DJ simply because he's not an actual character, but a CaS.

I will never take DJ seriously unless he's given an actual character slot.

As for wanting to include DJ to appeal to a small group of players shouldn't be much of a concern at all because there are SC players who have played this series for years who no longer have their character in the game.

 

[Nightblade]

Whatever man. Ignoring the problem and going the 'See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak No Evil' approach after having such a hands-off approach to the community as a whole gets no respect points from me.

Idlemind laid out everything we needed to know a week ago, and nobody has been able to counter-argue his points effectively. You proponents of DJ are a bunch of ridiculous fanboy bitches that need to sit down and look at things objectively.

I've played more Tekken than most of you here. I've traveled to Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York City, Upstate NY, Jersey, Virginia, Maryland, Phili, New Hampshire, Vermont, Northern and Southern California (countless times), and Japan all to play Tekken. I have mained Mishimas (DJ included) since Tekken 2. I want DJ usable way more than you, but I am not blinded by the fact that the issue of logistics prevents that. It totally and completely prohibits it. If it leaves room for human error or tampering, it MUST not be deemed legal.

There is a reason people like Idlemind have positions like he had - and now we're short one more intelligent guy in our community because you less intelligent guys think kicking and screaming is going to change the facts. IT IS NOT. Namco has banned CaS entirely. Evo will ban CaS entirely. Case closed. Suck my dick.

 

[BLACKSTAR]

Allow me to be devil's advocate:The big problem with banning DJ, is if his style shows up with Edgemaster or Killik. If it does, and DJ is banned, Killik and Edgemaster are likely autobanned

....which is totally fine by me BTW :D