Critical Edge: A Brief History of Banning...

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Like I said earlier (in alot more words) banning a character based on balance, without even allowing him to be played tourneys for at least 4-6 months is a DUMB idea. Day/week/month 1 'broken' (like SC4 Mitsu 2KB, Ivy Coil whip 214B-annoying-move-thingy) usually turns out to be not broken(OP maybe though). Insinuating that the Devil Jin debate is about 'balance' is a complete falacy.

I am definitely behind banning DJ based on the fact that he's CaS only. That's the actual debate, though it shouldnt be. It's common sense. Even Namco itself appearantly banned DJ. Case closed.
 
Also, there is a good reason why Ezio is available for use on both consoles and Devil Jin is just a moveset in this game. Think about that.
 
I am very strongly opposed to the creation of two rulesets, and opposed to allowing DJ in general. As everyone's already said, making a preset DJ CaS is a logistical hassle that is just not worth the payoff. We are not likely to get a large influx of Tekken fans who stay with the community because they have SxT, TT2 and TxS all coming out in the near future. Compare that to a single character in SC who won't even look like him.

That said, if Namco does release a Harada_TEKKEN for DLC or something, I can say with almost certainty that nobody knows if he's broken yet. It's too early in the game and no matter how good people are at theorycraft, no one can ever see all the developments ahead of time. Not everything works in practice the way it looks like it will, and I have doubts that even top players can look at a list of numbers and predict the future. It's simply too early to tell.

As I understand, it's usually EVO's policy to leave things unbanned until they're proven broken under their roof (though I assume the logistical issues of DJ will prevent him in this case regardless) which led to the giant mess that was Brawl at EVO '08. So I'm also going to say that going by EVO rules because they're EVO rules isn't necessarily the best idea. They may be very experienced at fighters in general, but I think it's likely that this community collectively knows Soul Calibur a lot better than they do.

As others have said, at this time, I don't even know why this is a debate. He's a CaS, he's out.

EDIT: Jaxel says there isn't a logistics issue, but of course I disagree. How are you even going to determine the default CaS? Who's to say he shouldn't be susceptible to combos that work on larger characters or such? Who's going to decide what he looks like? What if everyone thinks he looks like ass? Not that cosmetics really matter, but all this plus making sure every console has the exact correct CaS, dealing with the possibility of cheating, taking the time to upload the save to each console (when after a certain point, one would assume most would have everything unlocked) and a hundred other minor issues just makes it not worth it.
 
History comes in and has a funny way of repeating itself, and what i mean by that is the uncertainty of SC3 on what should banned and what shouldn't. Typically, games that have banned things because of one thing: BALANCE. nothing more. This thread/debate/arguement is pointless on many levels.

First, the game isn't out it. So having the Soul of DevilJin maybe not even broken, however Evo is probably going to have that in their ruleset...so what do you do? Ban him now and risk having little to no knowledge of the character or play him and then by around May or so if it's painfully obvious that he's broken then ban him? Decisions decisions.

First off, 2 rulesets is absurd, and it shouldn't be an option regardless if you're trying to appease the community. Ideally he should be banned for the simple fact that he's not a character on the roster. The banned set has always been no CaS and it should stay that way. Making the exception for DJ would cause an uproar in complaints because of the rules and how now it supports all CaS.

Second, Most of the Road to EVO tournaments support the 8WR ruleset anyway. So stick to one, not 2. it's aleady confirmed that th human race is a stupid species that happens to be the most intelligent life on earth. So adding confusion will not help anyone at anytime. (bad pun maybe?) So ideally, if you're concerned about weather or not Mr Wizard will approve your ruleset, then you might wanna point out to him that his road to evo tournaments fully support you and are continuing to do so.

I guess what my point is is that you need to man-up, grow some balls, and make a decision already. Not open a thread to issue a debate of any kind. And please, do not become another XCTU. Make up your mind and lets move on, we have a game to play :)
 
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