Best Fighting Game Except Soul Calibur

[Ghengis_John]

Virtua fighter 5? No. Seriously? It's the last thing I would have predicted to see on the top of this list when I came in. I didn't really think it was that popular. At all. I tried it out once after buying a used copy of 5 and having to watch where my feet were in addition to spacing felt needlessly complicated and resulted in a lot of frustration on my part. I guess you guys feel that getting that down is rewarding. I don't see complexity for it's own sake as a mark of quality though. If I have to study a game that intensely before I can start having any fun with it I'd rather just go learn an instrument or a foreign language. To each their own I guess.

 

[Alstein]

VF is less study then you'd think. I'd say honestly, Blazblue requires the most time in training mode and reading crap, for a vastly inferior game.
Tekken requires a little more study also, due to the size and inconsistency of the roster.

VF you pretty much learn quick what the staple moves are like on block/hit/CH, that stays pretty consistent from character to character.

A lot of things in VF are intuitive, which helps. The unintuitive parts are the option selects and advanced defense largely, or stance combos- and those things are more situational then staple. You can also learn how to beat those techniques if you predict them.

Fuzzy Guard- low throw, low, delayed throw
ETEG- circular attack for big damage. (unless you play Taka, who is screwed I believe)

As for the US and what's popular here- judging by sales the US is largely Capcom fanboys. Nothing else other then Tekken, MK, and SC took off here to any large degree. (Samurai Shodown could have, but 3 killed it)

 

[Ghengis_John]

I don't know if it's wise to engage you in a dialogue when you throw around phrases like "vastly inferior" and "Capcom fanboys" It seems like there's a lot of anger there and I don't exactly wanna poke the hornet's nest. Sufficed to say I actually enjoyed both Blazblue and Tekken. I get those. I struggled with VF. Though I think we can both agree from the sounds of it that SF IV is trash.

Speaking of tastes I'm a little surprised to see Naruto on the list and not KOF.

 

[Alstein]

You're right to say I'm mad on some things.

Well, SF4 is not bad- it just could have been much better, though I suspect we'd each say the exact opposite thing on how to improve the game. I just think it's overrated, not bad. I think Capcom gets a free pass on mediocre/poor design ideas though.

Arc games- I do find them vastly inferior- though it's personal taste. Poor animation, poor gameplay. They do good music, good netcode and good single-player design- so I'll give them that. Also, GG/BB style is getting ripped off way too much these days over in Japan- I'm sick of it and GG clones seem to be more numerous then SF2 clones.

I'll give AH3 a chance because it looked promising though- though that's dependent on MK9 as well.

Tekken I respect, though I consider it flat-out inferior to VF. It's still a very good game though. KOF- I love the UM games, though the rest of the series is lacking (can't say on XIII).

 

[Dullyanna]

@Lasercakes: Sabakis are basically the equivalent of aGI attacks in SC. Aside from that and tech jumps, frame advantage is the only way a 14 frame mid would beat a 11-12 frame 2P done at the same time up close.