Xbox One Discussion

[DarkMoonFantasy]

You do realize PS3 had a lot of the non-gaming apps before Xbox right? I don't see what console features that have nothing to do with game means anything. Its not like all the consoles features are aimed at television.

1000 cap on friends list
500GB hard drive with support for external hard drives NOT made by MS.
USB 3.0
Dedicated Servers for every game

^Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.

Its not bad per say. To me though, all the effort, time and money placed into this television gimmick could have been invested into enhancing the gaming experience even further instead. This television sports stuff just feels like its unnecessary. Why spend so much on an app that a majority of people don't really care about?

 

[Slayer_X64]

Yet in the PS4 thread you said PS5, PS6, etc moving forward is gonna be better on backwards compatibility because its built on a PC architecture. I don't see any different with Xbox One going forward since its built on a PC architecture.
yes which means PS4 wont have to emulate itself anymore. XBOX however, can use the cloud and other such servers to further impose DRM. do you really think those games will still work once the servers go down? maybe if the game was made by a good developer they will update it, but chances are no. they will not.
Me having a friend in New York is irrelevant to the point I was making. You can physically go over your friends house and do the exact same thing. If you have a brother, sister, roommate, boyfriend, girlfriend, wife, husband or cousin in the next room with an Xbox One you can do the same thing. That keeps your account information secure and giving a second copy to them for free.
and what if i want to lend the game to another person after that? besides this is giving the person the game, not lending it to them, big difference. if i have the ability to lend a game, i can lend it to as many people as i please. XBOX ONE does not give me that ability. im not interested in buying the game for the other person, i just want to lend it to them on a temporary basis. once they finish with it, if they like it enough, they can buy it themselves.
You do realize PS3 had a lot of the non-gaming apps before Xbox right? I don't see what console features that have nothing to do with gaming mean a focus on TV. Its just extra fluff. Its not like all the consoles features are aimed at television either.
PS3 still kept gaming as the mainstay focus however, and none of these non-gaming apps/hardware were required to function(ie. kinnect) if i want TV i have a perfectly good shaw cable box i can watch.
1000 cap on friends list this is nice, i will admit that.
500GB hard drive with support for external hard drives NOT made by MS. why have the internal hard drive retricted though? why not just let me throw a 2TB drive in there.
USB 3.0 this isnt really a big deal at all. USB 3.0 has been around for years now.
Dedicated Servers for every game along with the DRM to go with it. once servers shut down, game becomes useless.

^Those are the ones I remember off the top of my head.

EDIT: this isnt directly related to XBOX, but it also helps clarfy the image of why DRM is bad. DRM quite literally, is like renting: http://www.digitaltrends.com/web/amazon-account-ban-reminds-us-drm-content-is-only-rented/

which actually adds another point - should your xbox live account get banned(most likely deservingly, but not always the case) you would also lose access to ALL of the games you rightfully paid for and own, only to have to buy them all again behind a microsoft paywall.

basically DRM lets them tell you how and when you're gonna use your product, and if they dont like you for any reason at all, they can revoke your rights to use that product indefinitely, and in most cases it would force you to buy it again. and of course buying DRM content only supports the system of DRM in itself.

now idk about you, but i want executive control over my purchase. would you like it if you say for example, bought a bed, and then you had some fancy business exec tell you when and how you could sleep on your bed? and say, he didnt like your shoes, and he suspected they could scuff up the bed even though you probably wouldnt ever sleep in bed with shoes on anyways, he could take away your bed entirely, and make you sleep on the floor. doesnt that seem a bit ridiculous? and if you ever wanted a new bed you'd have to buy a brand new bed entirely.

 

[Solo]

Or that you can only have sex in the missionary position on the bed. Lol

 

[MKHSpartan]

Or that you can only have sex in the missionary position on the bed. Lol

Uh.... what??????

 

[Reave]

Its not bad per say. To me though, all the effort, time and money placed into this television gimmick could have been invested into enhancing the gaming experience even further instead. This television sports stuff just feels like its unnecessary. Why spend so much on an app that a majority of people don't really care about?

The Internet does not represent the majority and I'm sure their are gamers out there interested in that stuff as well. Just because you and I find them unnecessary doesn't mean much tbh.

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Sony partnered with Gaikai which is a company that built itself around cloud based gaming for their PS4 and backwards compatibility with earlier generation games. Cloud based gaming is there with them as well to so don't put too much faith in that with the little bit of information we have.

I understand the point of lending just fine. I live with two other gamers. I also see the benefit in the new system as well. Having a benefit means its not all bad like you claim it to be, regardless of how many friends you game with. If you have just one other person on board it cuts down the amount of money both of you spend on gaming while allowing you to game just as much or maybe even more than usual. If another friend might want to buy or try out the game there is nothing stopping you from inviting them over or going over their and letting them try it out. You won't have to lug around a gigantic rig either.

I guess the kept gaming as a mainstay or rather their casual appealing ideas don't catch on as well (Did you forget about the terrible WonderBook demo?) and PS Move isn't as innovative as Kinect. The PS Eye is supposed to come bundled with PS4s I think and we don't have enough Info to say it isn't as integrated as Kinect. Sony's console didn't show what their console could do. Just what they hoped it could do followed by a few exclusives and first look at multiplatform games.

500GB isn't bad but maybe to keep the cost down as much as possible. I expect the system to be $400 dollars. The fact that you can now use any 2TB hard drive you want (Just like PS3) instead of MS overpriced BS HDD is very much a positive for gamers everywhere.

USB 3.0 wasn't around in 360s is the point.

The only company I know that shuts down servers is EA. I can still play Dark Sector or Dead or Alive 4 online today. I don't see this changing next gen but we'll see.

MS doesn't ban people for no reason. That said if you get banned they can lift it, if it was unjustly but I don't recall their ever being an unjustified ban. That alone doesn't deter me at all because I abide by the Terms of Use. Sharing the two licenses for digital content between two consoles does not go against the Term of Use either. If you get banned and have to buy stuff over then that's your own responsibility. Agreeing to the Terms of Use means anything that goes on with that Gamertag is your responsibility to take otherwise don't hit accept.