Why I hate pit bulls;

[mkl]

yes, and blue whales came from fang bearing ungulate creatures the size of bears. i didn't know that evolution and selective breeding are the same thing. my bad.

and yes, you can find lots of deaths caused by dogs that are not pit bulls. in fact, out of the 88 documented human deaths by dogs in the US over a three year period from 1996 to 1998, there were 36 of them. the other 52...well...i guess those must have been wolves.

I think you're glossing over the fact that pitbulls are becoming one of the most common breeds in the US, one of the most common reasons for owning one is for defense or fighting. So the sheer ubiquity of them skews statistics. If a husky was as common and was trained for the same reasons you'd have the same results in huskies.

But shit man, I'm was just trying to steer you away from sounding like you were delivering more tirades in the vein of Hitler. If you want to avoid this from happening ever again we should just ban all dogs.

 

[lobo]

yeah kirax. any dog attack is likely to give you post traumatic stress to some extent. i got bit in the face by a cocker spaniel as a kid and have never liked them to this day. i'm glad my uncle was responsible and owned a cocker spaniel, though, and not a certain other wolf descendant, because i still have my face.

I think you're glossing over the fact that pitbulls are becoming one of the most common breeds in the US, one of the most common reasons for owning one is for defense or fighting. So the sheer ubiquity of them skews statistics. If a husky was as common and was trained for the same reasons you'd have the same results in huskies.

um...despite the fact that there are 5 different "breeds" that can all be combined because they are all pit bulls...the combination of them is nowhere near the most common. not even top 5. in fact, even if you lump them in with all variations of bulldog (which isn't really fair as they are quite distinct from other bulldog breeds), since people often do lump them together to make bite and fatality statistics not look so bad, even then, they are not in the top 5. lol.

however, they are, by far, the most common breed found in pounds at one-in-five on average, the breed most frequently killed by civilians in defense, by police officers, and the breed with the highest percentage of euthanized animals at 77% on average. hell, in 1999 alone, almost a million of them were put down because they couldn't find homes...58% of all dogs put down were pit bulls...

so i guess, if by "common", you mean "most frequently born and abandoned to die as a puppy because we are cruel and insist on breeding them and killing then instead of just agreeing not to own them", then i suppose your fact is legit. i tend to count owned pets instead.

in fact, in spite of being vastly outnumbered by labradors...and i mean vastly...they managed to kill 18 people in 2010 alone, while labradors killed...ZERO. a few years back, though, one of them accidentally choked a six year old to death with a scarf. i guess we can count that.

huskies was a good random example to pull though, because they are quite vicious as well. so vicious that they killed 13 people in US/canada since 1982...almost as much as pit bulls have in any one of the past ten years...

 

[mkl]

um...despite the fact that there are 5 different "breeds" that can all be combined because they are all pit bulls...the combination of them is nowhere near the most common. not even top 5. in fact, even if you lump them in with all variations of bulldog (which isn't really fair as they are quite distinct from other bulldog breeds), since people often do lump them together to make bite and fatality statistics not look so bad, even then, they are not in the top 5. lol.

however, they are, by far, the most common breed found in pounds at one-in-five on average, the breed most frequently killed by civilians in defense, by police officers, and the breed with the highest percentage of euthanized animals at 77% on average. hell, in 1999 alone, almost a million of them were put down because they couldn't find homes...58% of all dogs put down were pit bulls...

so i guess, if by "common", you mean "most frequently born and abandoned to die as a puppy because we are cruel and insist on breeding them and killing then instead of just agreeing not to own them", then i suppose your fact is legit. i tend to count owned pets instead.

I think you glossed over the fact that I said becoming. Their numbers have skyrocketed in the past 10 years and continue to climb. Especially if you consider every stat you quoted.

 

[lobo]

nah, i was going by reality, where nobody wants them and almost a million get killed every year because they can't get adopted, not a hypothetical future where we all suddenly feel a need for a pet that, if it so desires, can kill any child that hops into my back yard for his frisbee or unwitting UPS man at the front door.

it isn't about cruelty to pit bulls, either. i, for one, think it is far more cruel to breed and proliferate an animal just so we can euthanize it en masse than it is to simply make laws against breeding them in the first place.

 

[Digitality]

My ex had a pit bull. Probably because she was goth and it was the cool danger factor more than anything else. I couldn't really say. He was a really friendly dog and well taken care of. I lived with her at the time and he had no problem obeying commands. He liked to wrestle around with me and never got mean or out of hand during play. Still whenever a stranger would come to the door he'd get riled up and I had no doubt in my mind he was a potentially vicious and dangerous animal and that if he ever managed to get out and did attack somebody it would be deadly. Other dog breeds might attack people too, but they just do not present the same amount of inherent threat.