Why do people think that suicide is wrong?

Saying whether something is right or wrong could be considered irrelevant. Your definition of right probably differs from mine, hence, we will never come to a solid conclusion. I'm talking about what is necessary. There is a world of difference between the two subjects. Religious beliefs aside, I don't see the point of suffering through agony when I can rest in peace. If I'm an atheist, why should I be judged by someone of a different religion for wanting to bring an end to my pain?

By the way, didn't the Catholic Church recently announce that if you commit suicide you won't go to hell/stay in limbo? I think that's pretty interesting and I wonder what brought about that change, if it's true.
 
Nastynate said:
Saying whether something is right or wrong could be considered irrelevant. Your definition of right probably differs from mine, hence, we will never come to a solid conclusion. I'm talking about what is necessary. There is a world of difference between the two subjects. Religious beliefs aside, I don't see the point of suffering through agony when I can rest in peace. If I'm an atheist, why should I be judged by someone of a different religion for wanting to bring an end to my pain?

By the way, didn't the Catholic Church recently announce that if you commit suicide you won't go to hell/stay in limbo? I think that's pretty interesting and I wonder what brought about that change, if it's true.
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i don't know the answer to your question. i'm not associated with the Catholic Church and had no idea this happened. and the thing about what is "necessary" is also a blurred term as well. it's no difference than the right or wrong equation. what you deem is necessary may differ than me and both of our views may differ from the third party. i keep saying that we believe what/how something should be in our eyes. so we can only speak for ourselves. can't speak for the people that want or thought or won't commit suicide because it is different in every case and in every case there is a different mind with a different view of how they see things.
 
I agree that our terms of "necessary" may be blurred and I'm speaking from the perspective of the person who is suffering. I believe their version of what is necessary is clearer than ours, for obvious reasons. But, I also think we can agree that neither of us have a right to label these people as "pussies." I certainly wouldn't label you as such if you were suffering from an extreme headache and begged for pain medication. Some people who are suffering from a terminal illness are simply too poor to afford medication, or they live in a region of the world were such opportunities are not readily available. We owe it to these people to honor their wishes, just as we would hope that they would honor ours.
 
Nastynate said:
I agree that our terms of "necessary" may be blurred and I'm speaking from the perspective of the person who is suffering. I believe their version of what is necessary is clearer than ours, for obvious reasons. But, I also think we can agree that neither of us have a right to label these people as "pussies." I certainly wouldn't label you as such if you were suffering from an extreme headache and begged for pain medication. Some people who are suffering from a terminal illness are simply too poor to afford medication, or they live in a region of the world were such opportunities are not readily available. We owe it to these people to honor their wishes, just as we would hope that they would honor ours.
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I do agree that I was out of line for saying that. normally don't slip like that. and I wish i could take pain medication but unfortunately pain medication takes a good little while to kick in and with my headache they come in too suddenly for it to work. so I have to resort to taking pain medication before I go to bed and when I wake up in the mornings then I might be able to give them the slip. it's funny because doctors couldn't diagnose it but my grandmother came across a page that described exactly how I told her my headaches felt. had these things for years and a couple of weeks ago I find out what it is. go figure. but enough about me...
 
Sorry to hear about that, it does sound shitty :/ Thanks for the discussion, it's rare to have an intelligent conversation with someone on the internet, nowadays. I think I'm gonna call it a night...it's getting kinda late :p
 
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