Why do people think that suicide is wrong?

Just because you haven't heard of it happening very much doesn't mean it isn't a common occurance. There are millions of people around the world dying from diseases such as cancer and AIDS. Even if only 1% killed themselves, that's still a lot of people. "Hell" is a subjective term, but I can almost guarantee that you've never suffered the same way these people have. If you did, you'd realize that being a "pussy" doesn't factor into the equation.
 
lobo said:
my grandfather was a physicist at the los alamos national laboratories in the late 40s and early 50s. he committed suicide before i was born because of the ramifications of his contributions at work. i don't judge him in the least. i probably would have done the same thing.

my father was diagnosed with stage 4 glioblastoma (brain cancer) in 2005 and given 5 months to live. after 4, he, the smartest man i have ever known, was incapable of putting even simple thoughts together. he couldn't walk. he couldn't talk. the chemo and radiation had left him blistered unable to do anything but vomit all day. he did it as well, to alleviate the stress and suffering of everyone around him, and also himself.

both were atheists. in both cases, i view it not only as acceptable, but as ultimately respectable. i hope that, given the situation, i would be man enough to do the same.
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I'm sorry to hear about your grandfather and father. My mother suffered from ovarian cancer for over 14 years. She was the kindest, strongest, and most intelligent person I've ever known. Towards the end of her life, I could tell that she had resigned to her fate. I'd wake up in the middle of the night and hear her crying while she was throwing up in the toilet. In the last month of her life she was in a medically induced coma...the chemo therapy had severely poisoned her entire body. The only time she "woke up" was to cry because of the horrible pain she was in. Fortunately, she finally passed away. That was probably the saddest day of my life and also one of the happiest, because I knew that she didn't have to suffer any longer.

I respect anyone who fights a terminal illness to their dying breath, but I equally respect those who chose to end their own lives.
 
Nastynate said:
Just because you haven't heard of it happening very much doesn't mean it isn't a common occurance. There are millions of people around the world dying from diseases such as cancer and AIDS. Even if only 1% killed themselves, that's still a lot of people. "Hell" is a subjective term, but I can almost guarantee that you've never suffered the same way these people have. If you did, you'd realize that being a "pussy" doesn't factor into the equation.
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I know what you meant by "hell" and once or twice a year I get to live through this "hell" btw. I just happen to have the worst type of headache you can get. even women say that the pain is worse that giving birth and it last for 2 straight hours at least once to three times a day. i know that it's probably not as bad as what some other people get but you said I have no clue and I know I do. this is all personal preference and opinion anyway. I know I wouldn't kill myself ever. if my hands got cut off through some accident and that means I can't play any instruments, can't draw, type, or play games, etc (because I love doing things creative which involve use of hands) I would only then consider having a friend stick a drug in my IV and let me die but that's only if I'm not married or have the support of my family or friends, which I do. so even then me dying when it's not my time is out of the question. that would be selfish on my end. I have people that care about me and I wouldn't want to do the worse thing I can do to them by offing myself.
 
Once again, you're making an assumption based off of your personal experiences. Having painful headaches a couple times a year doesn't compare to being in so much pain that you can't even function as a normal person. Everyone experiences pain in varying degrees, but few will ever approach the level of suffering these people go through. Even the toughest person on Earth has their breaking point, a time when they will say 'enough is enough.' If you couldn't even go to the bathroom on your own, which is downright humiliating, you might reconsider your stance the subject. Now imagine living like this day after day, for years on end. Many of these people love life just as much as any of us do. They've fought the good fight and just want to rest after a long struggle. Their families may even support their decision.

I appreciate your strong will to live, which is admirable, but try to see it from someone else's point of view. Death isn't such a bad thing, after all, it's just the beginning of another journey.
 
Nastynate said:
Once again, you're making an assumption based off of your personal experiences. Having painful headaches a couple times a year doesn't compare to being in so much pain that you can't even function as a normal person. Everyone experiences pain in varying degrees, but few will ever approach the level of suffering these people go through. Even the toughest person on Earth has their breaking point, a time when they will say 'enough is enough.' If you couldn't even go to the bathroom on your own, which is downright humiliating, you might reconsider your stance the subject. Now imagine living like this day after day, for years on end. Many of these people love life just as much as any of us do. They've fought the good fight and just want to rest after a long struggle. Their families may even support their decision.

I appreciate your strong will to live, which is admirable, but try to see it from someone else's point of view. Death isn't such a bad thing, after all, it's just the beginning of another journey.
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i already clarified that my experience probably didn't amount to whom you were referring to and I already said that my opinions were of my own preference. no one can say whether suicide is ultimately right or wrong because when it comes down to it, it is only a matter of people's opinion. you think death is the start of another journey. some people think that it is the end and afterwards is just completely nothingness. others state that if death is by suicide then you either go to hell (or some other place of suffering) or you're reincarnated into a fly or something. no one can say if suicide is the correct decision, even if they're the person doing it. but they/we can say whether we think it's right or wrong though.

btw I was thinking of myself in the other person's shoes. hence the hand cut off scenario.
 
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