Ultimate Marvel Vs Capcom 3

[Windstar]

So I finally started playing against real players and I'm not doing too hot. Played about 30 games now and haven't won a single one, yet. Since none of my characters can air dash, I'm having trouble closing the gap, especially against projectile spam and keep away. Can't execute any of my combos against live players, either.

Tried the strategy with Dr. Strange of using projectiles and trying to get in their face, but its not working too well. I can do a simple magic series and follow up with a super, but not much else from there. None of my attacks with Vergil are hitting characters and I seem to lack strong overheads with at least 2 of my characters (Vergil and Strange). I'm aware they have them, but none of them are landing.

Anyway, it seems I picked really difficult characters to play since they're all heavy on DP inputs for various moves and combo filler. Since DPs are extremely difficult for me - as well as doing above mentioned bread and butter combos listed for Vergil - I seem to have picked a team that isn't really suitable to beginners. I'm not sure what else to do at this point - I can't even kill a single enemy character on the opposing team.

So any tips?

 

[Sora]

So I finally started playing against real players and I'm not doing too hot. Played about 30 games now and haven't won a single one, yet. Since none of my characters can air dash, I'm having trouble closing the gap, especially against projectile spam and keep away. Can't execute any of my combos against live players, either.

Tried the strategy with Dr. Strange of using projectiles and trying to get in their face, but its not working too well. I can do a simple magic series and follow up with a super, but not much else from there. None of my attacks with Vergil are hitting characters and I seem to lack strong overheads with at least 2 of my characters (Vergil and Strange). I'm aware they have them, but none of them are landing.

Anyway, it seems I picked really difficult characters to play since they're all heavy on DP inputs for various moves and combo filler. Since DPs are extremely difficult for me - as well as doing above mentioned bread and butter combos listed for Vergil - I seem to have picked a team that isn't really suitable to beginners. I'm not sure what else to do at this point - I can't even kill a single enemy character on the opposing team.

So any tips?

Which characters are you using? If you can't do any of your combos yet, you either need more time in training mode or start out simpler; if you're just starting out in Marvel, you should go for simple/basic (don't be like me who starts with Zero. >_>)

As much as I hate to say it, Wesker would be good to train you in teleports, mixups and basic combos. Hawkeye/Taskmaster for zoning, then Nova for some basic/advanced air loops. You'll find your groove soon.

Hope that helps.

 

[Leshain]

Basically he isn't THAT bad and there are easy ways to beat is basically what this dude is trying to say. And shockingly it MAKES SENSE!

or it could just be a guy that is defending his main from getting nerf more by Capcom.

Here are some good counterarguments to his article in my opinion.

Rafizzle OFBrizzle

"The article is all opinion based and extremely shortsighted. Let's point out some of the problems.

1) He compares wesker to vanilla sent, however, this is not appropriate since this game is very similar to the last, and we've had the entire length of mvc3 to figure out how to counter Wesker and and all we can come up with is: " Stay out of point blank range when attacking (free command grab TYVM),
and prepare to cancel into something that can beat his 3-5 frame low
short( however much its sped up by XF3). Ideas are 2 frame snapbacks,
invincible moves (Ryu’s DP, bionic arm), counters, jump cancel from
normals, and of course your own X-factor."

-- Right so all I need to do to beat his attacks in x-factor is throw out a random snapback (wasting a meter), use invincible moves (which only a few cast members have access to, the examples given are incredibly unsafe: shoryuken or bionic arm, unless u have x-factor handy but I'd rather save it than cover my random attempts at stopping wesker).

Or attempt to zone him out, not exactly easy with most of the cast...
U cannot fight wesker straitup, and that's a problem.
These are all bandaid solutions for an overpower character. At least sentinel was slow, wesker is not.

Finally: all these points, which you pointed out yourself, add to WESKER's power in comparison to the rest of the cast, and that really is what tier lists are about, comparing a character to the rest to see who the best is:

"**Wesker’s hard counters got nerfed to hell (PHX, MAG) or nerfed just
enough to have people not play them as much for some stupid reason
(Ammy, Zero)… ADV WESKER


**Meter gain was nerfed, so extending combos becomes critically
important for any team… Hardly any assists are worth wasting a character
slot on. ADV WESKER OTG ASSIST


**It’s a new game and the first major, and people are dropping the soap everywhere. ADV WESKER EASY MODE COMBOS.


**Tron/Haggar assists are gone, and there’s no Dark Phoenix so there’s
nothing to stop XF3 Wesker from going nuts… ADV DARK WESKER.


**Most of the new characters have peanuts for health… ADV WESKER."

I'd like to point out that "easy to execute combos" are ALWAYS useful, not only in the beginging of a game's life, but throughout, this is because you don't want to worry about execution errors during a high pressure tournament match, and If a character has easy combos, good ways to get in, good normals, and high damage (and speed), they will be chosen over similar characters that require high execution for obvious reasons.

SO thanks for proving Wesker to be overpowered with your own biased article, even you cannot twist the facts so much that we take your conclusion seriously."

Hmm, i see. i'll still play him no matter what, i like characters who teleport and combo like madmen, besides, DAT PURPLE TRENCH COAT.

 

[Force-Destruct]

Nemesis and Wesker got mad synergy, they extend each others' combos and can kill in a team super!

 

[Windstar]

Which characters are you using? If you can't do any of your combos yet, you either need more time in training mode or start out simpler; if you're just starting out in Marvel, you should go for simple/basic (don't be like me who starts with Zero. >_>)

As much as I hate to say it, Wesker would be good to train you in teleports, mixups and basic combos. Hawkeye/Taskmaster for zoning, then Nova for some basic/advanced air loops. You'll find your groove soon.

Hope that helps.

I'm using Vergil, Firebrand and Strange. I thought I mentioned that earlier in this thread? Anyway, I kinda want to try Hawkeye, but I don't know who to stick in a team with Hawkeye, I also like Hsien-ko and Felicia - the latter is difficult for me to get a grip on. I've tried Nova and I know how to do his basic loop stuff, but I don't feel particularly like the character that much.