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How's this: if you are going to talk about the spiriting existing, consciousness being separate from the brain and generally omnipresent, you actually make a prediction that we can test and show me evidence that is has been successful in this test? These are just words coming out with nothing behind them.
Quantum entaglement for example refers to a very specific phenomena regarding quantum systems that have previously been in contact, and how collapsing the wave function in one system causes partial collapse in the other. Experiments were found violating something known as Bell's inequality. In other words, a prediction was made, an experiment was performed, and the theory was verified.
If you have studied physics even at an undergraduate level then you should know one of the most basic principles of quantum mechanics is the correspondence principle: all quantum mechanical systems, as they are scaled up or in the limit as hbar goes to zero, have to behave like their classical analogues.
The smallest meaningful constituent in the human brain for example is the neuron. The neuron is so large that it is undoubtedly a classical object. So to posit some kind of quantum behavior relating to consciousness would actually completely contradict quantum theory in its modern form. Therefore it would require extremely good evidence. You, and all the fools (yes you can get a PhD in physics and be a fool, its just relatively rare) arguing in favor of this have zero evidence.
Again, I am not close minded per se. If there were some kind of good evidence for the brain being a quantum system and for consciousness having some bizarre properties, then I would listen to it. But there isn't any good evidence, at all. Rather than worry about close mindedness, I would worry about open mindedness: the ability to reject ridiculous and unsubstantiated claims (bullshit) is just as vital as the ability to dispassionately weigh new evidence.
How's that LostProvidence?
PS CrazyYoshimitsu, go to college! Undergrad was the bomb, I highly recommend it.
Quantum entaglement for example refers to a very specific phenomena regarding quantum systems that have previously been in contact, and how collapsing the wave function in one system causes partial collapse in the other. Experiments were found violating something known as Bell's inequality. In other words, a prediction was made, an experiment was performed, and the theory was verified.
If you have studied physics even at an undergraduate level then you should know one of the most basic principles of quantum mechanics is the correspondence principle: all quantum mechanical systems, as they are scaled up or in the limit as hbar goes to zero, have to behave like their classical analogues.
The smallest meaningful constituent in the human brain for example is the neuron. The neuron is so large that it is undoubtedly a classical object. So to posit some kind of quantum behavior relating to consciousness would actually completely contradict quantum theory in its modern form. Therefore it would require extremely good evidence. You, and all the fools (yes you can get a PhD in physics and be a fool, its just relatively rare) arguing in favor of this have zero evidence.
Again, I am not close minded per se. If there were some kind of good evidence for the brain being a quantum system and for consciousness having some bizarre properties, then I would listen to it. But there isn't any good evidence, at all. Rather than worry about close mindedness, I would worry about open mindedness: the ability to reject ridiculous and unsubstantiated claims (bullshit) is just as vital as the ability to dispassionately weigh new evidence.
How's that LostProvidence?
PS CrazyYoshimitsu, go to college! Undergrad was the bomb, I highly recommend it.
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I know. I have had a lot of people telling me not to go to college. I plan to go to college for six years.
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There is a book that talk about evidence for reincarnation. It was referenced in one of my other books, I have to find it. ITs a bunch of "random" PhDs. Anyone is allowed to have an opinion I guess. Well it talks about ideas like a person being clinically dead, but being able to describe exactly what happened while they were dead. Even in other rooms. Or it could be a story. I will find the book.
There is also Dr. Emotos "Messages from Water" as examples of consciousness affecting reality, but this can be thought of psuedoscience to an extent.
QM is pretty crazy. I'll just remind everyone, for a while The Earth was the Centre of the universe. Then the Sun went around the Earth, Who knows what we'll know tomorrow.
There is also Dr. Emotos "Messages from Water" as examples of consciousness affecting reality, but this can be thought of psuedoscience to an extent.
QM is pretty crazy. I'll just remind everyone, for a while The Earth was the Centre of the universe. Then the Sun went around the Earth, Who knows what we'll know tomorrow.