THE MAIN REASON WHY PEOPLE ARE STUPID

[MONEYMUFFINS]

If this is the case, would Natalism not be the absolute best solution to the life "problem"? The faster we overpopulate ourselves, the faster our species falls down the spiral. Anti-Natalism almost seems like a weak effort to delay the collapse of humanity at this point.

THE ABSOLUTE BEST SOLUTION WOULD BE BLOWING UP THE EARTH IN ONE CLEAN SHOT KILLING EVERYONE INSTANTANEOUSLY AND PAINLESSLY.

I KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TRYING TO SAY, IN THAT STOPPING BIRTH ONLY DOES SO MUCH TO FIX THE ENTIRE PROBLEM. BUT MY TAKEAWAY FROM THIS IS TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THAT BY DELIBERATELY IMPOSING LIFE, YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA WHAT KIND OF RISK YOU’RE FORCING ONTO SAID LIFE. IN OTHER WORDS, IT SHOULD BE TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE TO JUST GO AROUND STARTING SHIT JUST BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER ABOUT YOURSELF. IMPOSITION IN ITSELF IS A BAD THING. THE ONLY TIME IT CAN BE A REASONABLE EXCEPTION, IS IF THE IMPOSITION IS DONE IN RETALIATION TO ANOTHER IMPOSITION. FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY TAKES IT UPON THEMSELVES TO FUCK WITH YOU, YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO STOP THEM FROM EVER DOING IT AGAIN.

What problem does anti-natalism solve?

ONCE AGAIN, THE TAKEAWAY IS RECOGNIZING THE FACT THAT IN SOCIETY IT IS NORMAL TO IMPOSE BULLSHIT ONTO OTHER PEOPLE WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT. THIS SHOULD NOT BE NORMAL. OUR SOCIETY IS SO FUCKED UP, THAT WE’VE ACTUALLY CONVINCED OURSELVES THAT OUR PARENTS HAVE GIVEN US THE “GIFT OF LIFE”, AND WE SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE THANKFUL FOR IT AND LOVE THEM OBEDIENTLY FOR IT. THIS IS UTTERLY INSANE. WE MUST NOT BE BRAINWASHED WITH SUCH NONSENSE.

IF WE CAN AT LEAST BEGIN TO RECOGNIZE THAT IMPOSITION = BAD, WE CAN START TO LOOK AT THE WORLD MORE INTELLIGENTLY AND THUS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO REMEMBER THAT EVERY ACTION SHOULD SERVE AN INTELLIGENT PURPOSE FIRST AND FOREMOST. WITH SUCH LOGIC, WE WOULD THEN SEE THERE IS NO “NEED” FOR ANYONE TO PROCREATE IN THE FIRST PLACE, OR PROLONG LIFE AT ALL. THE UNIVERSE ISN’T SCREAMING OUT FOR US TO PLEASE MAKE MORE BABIES. WE’RE ALL RETARDS DOING NOTHING BUT GRATIFYING OUR EGOS. THERE IS NO INTELLIGENT JUSTIFICATION IN THIS. IN FACT, PEOPLE WOULD SERIOUSLY ARGUE THAT "MIGHT MAKES RIGHT". FUCK THEM.

Why does optimism have to be a bad thing? There are many consequences of optimism, not all of which are necessarily bad. Can an individual not be both optimistic and a realist at the same time?

I AM THE WORLD’S GREATEST MOTHERFUCKER. SEE MY DISPLAY PICTURE. SELF-DELUSION, IN REGARDS TO SELF-ESTEEM, IS PROVEN TO ENHANCE ONE’S OVERALL HEALTH. HOWEVER! THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH REALITY AROUND ME. I OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT I CAN SEE EXTERNAL REALITY FOR WHAT IT IS, WITHOUT MAKING UP BULLSHIT LIES ABOUT GOD EXISTING OR THAT I HAVE A SOUL MATE IN THIS LIFE WAITING JUST FOR ME! I TRUST MAINSTREAM SCIENCE ABOVE ALL. SIMULTANEOUSLY HAVING EMPOWERING THOUGHTS ABOUT MYSELF AND SEEING REALITY FOR WHAT IT IS DOESN’T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE IN CONFLICT.

 

[MONEYMUFFINS]

TO ELABORATE ON MY LAST POINT: BEING OPTIMISTIC ABOUT REALITY AROUND ONE’S SELF TENDS TO LEAD TO THE PROBLEM OF IMPOSITION.

“I THINK LIFE IS GREAT!” = “LET’S FORCE BABIES INTO EXISTENCE AND THEN WHEN THEY GROW UP LET'S MAKE THEM FEEL BAD ABOUT THEMSELVES IF THEY DISAGREE THAT LIFE IS GREAT!”

“LIFE IS ALL ABOUT WINNING!” = “LET’S HAVE CHILD LABORERS SO WE CAN WIN MORE!”

“MIGHT MAKES RIGHT!” = “LET’S KILL 10 BILLION ANIMALS IN SLAUGHTERHOUSES EACH YEAR!”

“I AM GOING TO HEAVEN!” = “DO EXACTLY AS I TELL YOU OR BE STONED TO DEATH!”

THESE THINGS SIMPLY WOULDN’T HAPPEN UNLESS PEOPLE HAD AN OPTIMISTIC VIEW ON LIFE. AS IT TURNS OUT, SELF-ENTITLED ASSHOLES DO THINGS WITHOUT OTHER PEOPLE’S CONSENT. MORE AT 11.

 

[BlackDragon37]

TO ELABORATE ON MY LAST POINT: BEING OPTIMISTIC ABOUT REALITY AROUND ONE’S SELF TENDS TO LEAD TO THE PROBLEM OF IMPOSITION.

Imposition only occurs if one believes that the only way to change the quality of their life is to physically change the circumstances around them. This is due to bouncing between the victim and victor mentality, i.e. they believe that life's circumstances are beyond their control, so they must go to war with their issues and force circumstances to fit their beliefs so as to be in control. Basically, the intent is to feel better.

If one has an authentic positive outlook on life, then there's no need to impose that on others in order to keep that belief going - optimism is self-sustaining.

We all do things in order to feel better. It's called the pursuit of happiness. We're chasing happiness hoping it'll give us everlasting comfort with no discomfort at all.

But why are we chasing happiness? Because we're running from it's opposite.

And why are we running from its opposite? Because it's always got us. And we don't know what to do about it. So we personify it. Give it wings, a tail, some horns. Call it the Devil. And anything an event or someone says/does something which triggers these uncomfortable feelings we don't wanna feel, we say "Those events/people work for the Devil! They're evil and wrong, and should be punished!"

So we want happiness because we feel unhappy. We seek comfort because we feel uncomfortable. We want an easy life because we feel life's hard.

Being the emotional creatures we are, we don't how to change our feelings feel about our life. So we think of ways to change what's going on externally, then impose our will on the world because that's all we know how to feel better.

 

[MONEYMUFFINS]

BLACKDRAGON:

IT IS OBVIOUS THAT YOUR PERCEPTION OF REALITY IS NEEDLESSLY COMPLICATED. I REFUSE TO BUY INTO YOUR WAY OF THINKING, KNOWING YOU’VE FRAMED IT SO POINTLESSLY. I AM NOT GOING TO ADDRESS YOUR POINTS IN THE MANNER YOU’VE PRESENTED THEM TO ME.

INSTEAD, I DEMAND YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHY IMPOSING LIFE IS NECESSARY. EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS MUST HAPPEN. EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THIS SO-CALLED NEED IS ANYTHING BUT NONSENSE CREATED INSIDE OF OUR HEADS. WE ALREADY KNOW FOR A FACT THAT NOT HAVING KIDS IS NOT GOING TO MAKE US FEEL WORSE! WE ALREADY KNOW THAT NOT HAVING KIDS IS NOT GOING TO GIVE US CANCER OR DESTROY OUR OWN BODIES! THIS FAKE NEED IS WHAT’S DELUDING EVERYBODY!

EXPLAIN TO ME HOW YOUR OUTLOOK MAKES SENSE. WHY SHOULD DOING WHAT MAKES US HAPPY BE RELEVANT AT ALL? WHY SHOULD DOING WHAT MAKES US HAPPY DICTATE HOW LIFE IS CARRIED OUT? HOW ABOUT DOING WHAT’S EFFICIENT? HOW ABOUT WHAT’S ACTUALLY NECESSARY? OH RIGHT, LIFE DOESN’T NEED TO FUCKING EXIST. BUT HERE YOU COME GIVING EXCUSES WHY HAPPINESS IS WORTH PERPETUATING AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER LIFE DYING POINTLESSLY. FUCK YOU. YOU COME INTO MY THREAD, SEEMINGLY IGNORING MY MESSAGE IN ITS ENTIRETY, JUST TO SPOUT YOUR RETARD NOTIONS WITH NO COMPELLING REASON FOR ME TO LISTEN.

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

This topic is funny!!... =P

It doesn't matter if there are stupid people, because stupid people are too stupid to realize they're stupid. And fake smart people believe they're actually smart people. And depending on how stupid they actually are, they'll never realize it, because part of being "stupid" is all about ignoring factual logic, even when that factual logic is that you're not as smart as you believe you are.

Humans, unlike animals, we have the ability to download information around us, and apply it to ourselves. Intelligence is based on association, for instance if I grew up in a small village away from humanity and was taught there are flying-ninja-demons who live in the trees, that fictitious aspect of my life is a reality, since my group association concludes I'm correct. As far as I'm concerned then, I'm correct...

xD