The flawed concept of "Love".
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Pocky-Yoshi
[14] Master
The only thing I get from Moneymuffins is we're prone to be negative. He's right, but that doesn't mean we should abandon any hope of ever being happy and let science guide us. If he were to say this to some average girl(I'm guessing he won't), she'd call him a snobbish jerk.
I mean, imprinting is a proven fact that humans are stupid. If someone says you're stupid for not knowing 2+2=4, then you ought to relieve that problem by learning from someone else. Science ain't gonna help unless you learn from someone else. Why else teachers, parents, and adults of that nature are there to correct our flaws lest we become even more foolish? I bet you a million bucks he had to learn something from someone lest he'd be stupid.
Stupidity is what makes an athlete, a scholar, and practically anything else smarter. You mess up, but you learn what mistakes you can improve. If he lists all the problems with no sound solution and he isn't willing to educate an average schmoe to understand, he ain't getting no one to listen altogether. Like bashing a stupid person with knowledge is gonna help. You have to take on the "teacher" role and teach it from the ground up until they get it.
Being stupid is like a having a cold. It's temporary for whatever moment, but can only be relieved once you take care of it. No one in this world can cure stupidity like a cold. If we could, then Moneymuffins ought to rise from his seat and go make his ideals happen. In my eyes, he's an intelligent fool who lacks common sense.
He ain't gonna be no Albert Einstein. Because even he shared this:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Also other quotes:
"Success in almost any field depends more on energy and drive than it does on intelligence. This explains why we have so many stupid leaders."
-Sloan Wilson
"Sure the people are stupid: the human race is stupid. Sure Congress is an inefficient instrument of government. But the people are not stupid enough to abandon representative government for any other kind, including government by the guy who knows."
-Bernard Devoto
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."
-Bertrand Russell
I could go on and on, but what we'll always get from people like Moneymuffins, is more logical science crap and no common sense. I'm sure you could find some celebrities that became millionaires for working hard to make their mark on the world. The best part is some of them inspired us because a few had no college degree. It's either put up or shut up.
The nerve of some intelligent fools who haven't experienced love and rely on logic stuff and people's failures. Like that is gonna help you score even a chick in bed. It's no rocket science that love makes us do stupid things, yet we're happy to raise a child with a wife to keep the human race going.
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CaptainHook
[05] Battler
I never wholeheartedly disagreed with him per se, it was the manner in which he said it. No one living on planet earth believes humanity, and life itself, is without problems.
But like you said, he doesn't offer any solutions, just stating the issues. And here's why I can relate to him:
I used to think like him. I used to be a complete pessimist and wondered why we even exist at all. He then goes on to claim that we try to justify our existence with our pleasures. This is where I disagree. I'm sort of a hedonist in a way. If things in life give you pleasure, joy, satisfaction, whether it be an accomplishment out of struggle, a cigarette, an orgasm, a cupcake, or marijuana, it doesn't matter. The sheer fact that things give us pleasure make life worth living and makes the whole process WORTH repeating.
In other words, been there, done that. I've been at the mountain top ready to jump off, I've been in the bar drinking 13 beers and crying to myself.
What I realized is that even though life is pretty much superficial and pointless to a large degree, there is still SOME good in it, or at least there are parts in it that outweigh what is bad.
He's probably had some major existential epiphany where he must come to grips with the meaning of his own life, but can't find it, so he's using his negative emotions to cloud his judgement over what is a completely neutral thing: life.
Life is what we make of it. It's up to US to make it good and worth doing. It's our responsibility.
But like you said, he doesn't offer any solutions, just stating the issues. And here's why I can relate to him:
I used to think like him. I used to be a complete pessimist and wondered why we even exist at all. He then goes on to claim that we try to justify our existence with our pleasures. This is where I disagree. I'm sort of a hedonist in a way. If things in life give you pleasure, joy, satisfaction, whether it be an accomplishment out of struggle, a cigarette, an orgasm, a cupcake, or marijuana, it doesn't matter. The sheer fact that things give us pleasure make life worth living and makes the whole process WORTH repeating.
In other words, been there, done that. I've been at the mountain top ready to jump off, I've been in the bar drinking 13 beers and crying to myself.
What I realized is that even though life is pretty much superficial and pointless to a large degree, there is still SOME good in it, or at least there are parts in it that outweigh what is bad.
He's probably had some major existential epiphany where he must come to grips with the meaning of his own life, but can't find it, so he's using his negative emotions to cloud his judgement over what is a completely neutral thing: life.
Life is what we make of it. It's up to US to make it good and worth doing. It's our responsibility.
Mitalius
BoW To MeH
You're wrong about the "game of life". Life is not a stupid game, it's a concept that some of us have yet to understand, especially at a younger age, not to mention teens in relationships. Selfless love is existent. You just assume there isn't based on a particular group of human interaction that happens to know nothing about it, because knowing you're an absolute pessimist, that's the only place you look at. I'm a true believer in selfless love, what I suggested in this thread was merely how I felt other people saw love. You on the other hand jump the gun and assume it's not real because of how you see "fake selfless love".
I can tell you're a pessimist. Instead of assuming life is so bad because people know naught about the real concept of it, you should ask yourself if another group of people understand it. You look at more of the bad parts of life than the good parts.
MONEYMUFFINS
[13] Hero
MAY SCIENCE HAVE MERCY ON YOUR BRAIN.