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I never thought I'd ever get to use this word in an actual sentence, but wow, people are discussing antidisestablishmentarianism.
 
TerminatorCortez said:
Well to me you seem brainwashed, Typical Atheist always criticize the church... The Church is nothing. Becoming an atheist because you don't like what the church is doing is just stupid. Like Jesus said your religion should be between you and your God XD. Btw a lot of stuff in the bible have been proven... all the kings of the old testament are real... the great temple that the Jewish had build is still here( what's left of it ). Pontius Pilate the one who had condemned Jesus is still in old roman archives... And you didn't understand the story of Job XD. Well most Atheist don't fully understand the bible, I was exactly like you before it takes some smart thinking to understand it. And you know what's funny even Jesus warned us about fake preachers who doing evil.
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1. the church has set itself up to be God's official representative on earth; it's not "nothing", at least not to christians, nor to anybody who suffers from its policies. and btw if christianity was run Jesus' way there would be no churches, as He said to "pray alone in a dark closet, not loudly in the synagogues as the hypocrites do". "religion should be between yourself and your God"? LOL...you are just voicing the opinion of every non-christian in the world, we are all in agreement with you; it's your fellow christians who tend to think otherwise. and please get your labels correct; i am not an atheist. i'm a guy with some serious doubts and questions.

2. even a broken clock is right twice a day. the bible is a strange blend of fact, opinion, fiction, and hallucination; definitely not to be taken literally. it's wrong about small things like: people living 900 years, the earth being only a few thousand years old, the earth's species magically being created in 6 days, woman being created from a rib of a man, and every species on earth being hoisted into a small boat.

3. it is YOU who doesn't understand Job. here's the plot in a nutshell: god is sitting in heaven admiring his faithful follower job. satan spies him doing this and sashays right up to him (nevermind that satan is supposed to be imprisoned in hell and banished from heaven; apparently he can simply enter the Kingdom and get face-time with god at will) and tricks god into allowing satan to do anything he wants to job, short of killing him. why does god allow this? to prove a point to satan, because apparently the creator of the universe feels a need to explain himself to his the prince of darkness. so we have satan, hating job for his piety and goodness, and he just hoodwinked the omnipotent master of the universe into letting him unjustly torment a pure soul. once satisfied with the carnage wrought upon job, satan turns to god, shrugs his shoulders, and says "heaven's to betsy, you were right! he IS loyal! silly me! i'll just be on my way now". and god sits there with an empty peter griffin-like expression and says "derp...told ya so!".

4. "i was exactly like you...it takes some smart thinking to understand it"... :D now there's some typical christian pretentiousness for ya! you don'e know me, have never met me, but you somehow know me and how i think. and it doesn't take smart thinking to understand it...it takes gross ignorance and a childlike belief in fairy tales to do so. a talking snake? a giant? whales (or great fish) swallowing people and puking them out after 3 days? (3 days, hmmm....why does that sound familiar?) people being turned into pillars of salt? okayyyyyyy.....

5. yes, fake preachers doing evil...seems to describe 99.9% of 'em. i am very distrustful of ANYBODY who claims they heard God talk to them and tell them to speak for Him. if you hear voices commanding you to babble about the supernatural, you're not "chosen", you are schizophrenic. and you need help, not pledges, donations, or tax shelters. but i guess i'm preaching to the choir now...
 
Well Peachy0, your probably the most intellectual person who has answered me today your reasons are all valid but the story of Job is to show followers that even the mos righteous man can be put in trial by God. God knew that Job would never curse him because a good man of God accepts both suffering and happiness from him. God puts a lot of trials in a persons life, even Jesus himself was put on trial by the devil because God himself permitted. But everything you said is right, those pastors on TV that tell people to plant seed of life or something by donating are just Crazy LoL.
 
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