The Athiest Thread

Atheist, Agnostic, Theist


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No it's not stupid. Throughout the 20th and 21st century, Church / Religion has become more intertwined with State which should not happening. Who decided that religion should become a corporate thing?

Anyway this website http://truth-saves.com/ reveals why the bible is unreliable, and not real. Here are a few false prophecies made BY the bible.

Isaiah 17:1
"An oracle concerning Damascus: See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins."
FAIL: Damascus is still inhabited today with well over a million people and there was never a time where it ceased to be a city. It is widely known as being the oldest continuously inhabited city in the world.


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Isaiah 19:4-5 "I will hand the Egyptians over to the power of a cruel master, and a fierce king will rule over them, declares the Lord, the LORD Almighty. The waters of the river will dry up, and the riverbed will be parched and dry."
FAIL: The river mentioned here is the Nile which never dried up and is still one of Egypt's greatest natural resource.

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Isaiah 52:1 "Awake, awake, O Zion, clothe yourself with strength. Put on your garments of splendor, O Jerusalem, the holy city. The uncircumcised and defiled will not enter you again."
FAIL: There are still uncircumcised people living in Jerusalem even today.

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Ezekiel 30:10-11 "This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will put an end to the hordes of Egypt by the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. He and his army - the most ruthless of nations - will be brought in to destroy the land. They will draw their swords against Egypt and fill the land with the slain."
FAIL: Ezekiel predicts that Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon will conquer Egypt utterly destroying it, slaying and scattering its people. Nebuchadnezzar killed many Egyptians and even the Egyptian king Necho II during a battle in Carchemish, but he never conquered Egypt. Nebuchadnezzar attempted conquering Egypt in 601 BCE and failed. In 568 BCE he tried again but Egypt still survived and the pharaoh Amasis II continued his reign from 570 until 526 BCE.
Egypt was conquered by the Nubian King Piy in 728 BCE, the Persians in 525 BCE, and Alexander the Great in 332 BCE. Never by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar.

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Ezekiel 29:10-11 "therefore I am against you and against your streams, and I will make the land of Egypt a ruin and a desolate waste from Migdol to Aswan, as far as the border of Cush. The foot of neither man nor beast will pass through it; no one will live there for forty years."
FAIL: Never in its long history has Egypt been uninhabited for forty years.

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Matthew 16:28 "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." 23:36 "I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation." 24:34 "I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."
FAIL: Jesus states in Matthew that all the signs marking the end of the world would be fulfilled before his generation ended, before the people that were standing infront of him "taste death." Those people have been dead for over 2000 years and the world did not come to an end, neither have all those signs been fulfilled.

Secondly Terminator here are a plethora of contradictions between the new and old testaments http://jeromekahn123.tripod.com/newtestament/id19.html

Well The bible is an old book of course a bunch of thing are going to be contradicting each other it was written by a bunch of people and it was translated in different languages by hand. But the important are all completing each other.
 
Well these are false Christians and I dislike them as much as you do but you shouldn't condemn the religion because of thoses clowns. I feel your hate for Christianity but it's not the religion that's evil it's the people manipulating followers and changing its words that are. Islam is a beautiful religion but I completely dislike how the extremist treat their woman and how they do mass murder in the name of Allah.

No sir. Your beliefs are no better than those of any others. You don't like anyone telling you your beliefs are wrong? Ever thought everyone else feels the same way? You can't say you hate something, do that very thing, and not be a hypocrite. Your preaching is distilled arrogance and hypocrisy, the very things you're claiming your beliefs trasncend.
 
1. Why did you people decide to become an Atheist/Agnostic/Theist?
2. If you found out God was real when you died, what would you do?
3. Do you hate God/Jesus, or against the whole corrupt idea of religion?
4. Do you hate/dislike people who have a belief in God?
5. Lastly, what do you think of Jesus?

1. Didn't decide. I was never pushed into religion when young and never convinced later.

2. Would I have a body? What sort of things could I do? Dunno, I'd just roll with it from there.

3. It would be absurd to hate things you don't think exist. Hate religion? Some of them.

4. I dislike many religious people.

5. He's attributed with some good sayings.
 
Well :) i taught this thread was about learning about each other. I'm not forcing my beliefs on anyone, it's just that some people have a bad understanding of Church and Faith. They are two seperate things. Church comes from Man and Faith comes from God. Instead of trying to contradicting me in my beliefs, and telling the bible is not a valid source of faith when obviously you don't understand it's purpose, you should be sharing your doubts and what made you an Atheist. Like I said before, I enjoy Ateist people, some of my good friends don't believe in anything but we still have interesting conversation about our beliefs. I learnfrom them and they learn from me
 
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