The Athiest Thread

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I don't think that it's at all credible. The contradictions between the New and Old Testament are so conspicuous, and "in your face".

Also the bible wasn't even written by god so who's to say it's god's word anyway?

What contradictions they complete each other... all the old prophecies about the messiah coming Thousand of years before Jesus where accomplish... Before I speak of science, I try to understand it before you should do the same :) when you speak of the bible.
 
Well to me you seem brainwashed, Typical Atheist always criticize the church... The Church is nothing. Becoming an atheist because you don't like what the church is doing is just stupid. Like Jesus said your religion should be between you and your God XD. Btw a lot of stuff in the bible have been proven... all the kings of the old testament are real... the great temple that the Jewish had build is still here( what's left of it ). Pontius Pilate the one who had condemned Jesus is still in old roman archives... And you didn't understand the story of Job XD. Well most Atheist don't fully understand the bible, I was exactly like you before it takes some smart thinking to understand it.

No it's not stupid. Throughout the 20th and 21st century, Church / Religion has become more intertwined with State which should not happening. Who decided that religion should become a corporate thing?

Anyway this website http://truth-saves.com/ reveals why the bible is unreliable, and not real. Here are a few false prophecies made BY the bible.

Isaiah 17:1
"An oracle concerning Damascus: See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins."
FAIL: Damascus is still inhabited today with well over a million people and there was never a time where it ceased to be a city. It is widely known as being the oldest continuously inhabited city in the world.


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Isaiah 19:4-5 "I will hand the Egyptians over to the power of a cruel master, and a fierce king will rule over them, declares the Lord, the LORD Almighty. The waters of the river will dry up, and the riverbed will be parched and dry."
FAIL: The river mentioned here is the Nile which never dried up and is still one of Egypt's greatest natural resource.

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Isaiah 52:1 "Awake, awake, O Zion, clothe yourself with strength. Put on your garments of splendor, O Jerusalem, the holy city. The uncircumcised and defiled will not enter you again."
FAIL: There are still uncircumcised people living in Jerusalem even today.

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Ezekiel 30:10-11 "This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will put an end to the hordes of Egypt by the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. He and his army - the most ruthless of nations - will be brought in to destroy the land. They will draw their swords against Egypt and fill the land with the slain."
FAIL: Ezekiel predicts that Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon will conquer Egypt utterly destroying it, slaying and scattering its people. Nebuchadnezzar killed many Egyptians and even the Egyptian king Necho II during a battle in Carchemish, but he never conquered Egypt. Nebuchadnezzar attempted conquering Egypt in 601 BCE and failed. In 568 BCE he tried again but Egypt still survived and the pharaoh Amasis II continued his reign from 570 until 526 BCE.
Egypt was conquered by the Nubian King Piy in 728 BCE, the Persians in 525 BCE, and Alexander the Great in 332 BCE. Never by the Babylonian king Nebuchadnezzar.

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Ezekiel 29:10-11 "therefore I am against you and against your streams, and I will make the land of Egypt a ruin and a desolate waste from Migdol to Aswan, as far as the border of Cush. The foot of neither man nor beast will pass through it; no one will live there for forty years."
FAIL: Never in its long history has Egypt been uninhabited for forty years.

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Matthew 16:28 "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." 23:36 "I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation." 24:34 "I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened."
FAIL: Jesus states in Matthew that all the signs marking the end of the world would be fulfilled before his generation ended, before the people that were standing infront of him "taste death." Those people have been dead for over 2000 years and the world did not come to an end, neither have all those signs been fulfilled.

Secondly Terminator here are a plethora of contradictions between the new and old testaments http://jeromekahn123.tripod.com/newtestament/id19.html
 
Well I fear that the main problem with Atheist is that they condemn God because they think that all institutions praising him are not following his preaching. Well stop listening to others and read the bible... Jesus never spoke about forcing you to join a church to believe in him...Jesus never spoke about hating homosexual's, Jesus never said that you should be killed for doing this or that. So all atheist here believing in God has nothing to do with the Church.
 
Well I fear that the main problem with Atheist is that they condemn God because they think that all institutions praising him are not following his preaching. Well stop listening to others and read the bible... Jesus never spoke about forcing you to join a church to believe in him...Jesus never spoke about hating homosexual's, Jesus never said that you should be killed for doing this or that. So all atheist here believing in God has nothing to do with the Church.

Oh the irony.

The majority of Christians are hypocrites, and it all goes back to "Christianity 101" - Thou shalt not judge, and love thy neighbor yet homosexuality is incessantly condemned by myriads of Christians today, and have the nerve to judge us because our acts are supposedly "sinful" yet they don't actually know who we are.

If this is what Christianity makes people become


Then frankly I want nothing to do with a religion like this. Moreover there are numerous branches of Christianity such as Jehovah Witness, and Seventh Day Adventist which contradict each other which just proves the internal conflict of Christianity within its own communities. Quite baffling.
 
Well these are false Christians and I dislike them as much as you do but you shouldn't condemn the religion because of thoses clowns. I feel your hate for Christianity but it's not the religion that's evil it's the people manipulating followers and changing its words that are. Islam is a beautiful religion but I completely dislike how the extremist treat their woman and how they do mass murder in the name of Allah.
 
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