The Athiest Thread

[TerminatorCortez]

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So I get that you guys really dislike the Church and in that point we are in agreement, but what do you think about the Bible itself?[/quote

well no point most people never opened the book...When you finish the new testament it gives you hope I guess. The gospel of John is by far the best one. Also a lot of stuff that church is doing is the opposite of what Jesus did .

 

[peachyO]

I have a question~ I hope it can be answered...and I hope you all are not offended.

-Why did you people decide to become an Atheist/Agnostic/Theist?
-If you found out God was real when you died, what would you do?
-Do you hate God/Jesus, or against the whole corrupt idea of religion?
- Do you hate/dislike people who have a belief in God?
-Lastly, what do you think of Jesus?

Just to let you all know Im not trying to provoke! Im just curious in your responses. I hope Im not offending in any way and if you perfer not to answer I will respect that. m(_ _ m)

1. because i won't be part of any group who believe child molesting priests, money-worshiping televangelists, and pastors in $2,000 suits are the intermediaries between me and God, and because of the vicious absurdity of the bible, which condones murder as a suitable punishment for homosexuality, adultery, shaving, hair cutting, women speaking out in public, and eating shellfish, then commands "thou shalt not kill". oh, and because it sanctions slavery and animal sacrifices, and calls crippled or mentally retarded people "unclean" in the eyes of God.

2. expect to be rewarded for being true to myself instead of "believing" in Him just to try to avoid hell. and for never killing, raping, enslaving, abusing, or intentionally harming anybody.

3. i dislike religion in general; i view all of them as a tool for manipulative schemers to control minds and coax obedience and wealth from the gullible, and to eliminate dissenters. i hate the god described in the Old Testament...murderous, jealous, easily provoked to wrath, abusive to his most loyal servants, and easily fooled by satan (see the story of Job). the God Jesus speaks of seems much more loving and void of the human flaws of the Old Testament god.

4. i pity most who believe in a god. brainwashed souls frightened into believing a bunch of ridiculous fairy tales that no sane human would pay any mind to. that includes ALL religions, not just christianity. i do have hatred for some people of faith, namely those who persecute, harm, and/or oppress others in the name of their religion.

5. if Christians and their churches actually governed themselves according to Jesus' ACTUAL teachings (the words in red) i would probably be one. unfortunately, THOSE teachings (humility, charity, pacifism, unconditional love from God and among all people, service to the poor and the "least among us", forgiveness for all who repent, rejecting greed and corruption) don't seem to be very popular ones. apparently dictating government policy, forcing prayer in schools, encouraging AIDS and overpopulation by forbidding contraception, attacking minorities, warmongering, and amassing obscene amounts of wealth is the name of the game for most "Christian" organizations.

 

[SeraphimJester]

So I get that you guys really dislike the Church and in that point we are in agreement, but what do you think about the Bible itself?

I don't think that it's at all credible. The contradictions between the New and Old Testament are so conspicuous, and "in your face".

Also the bible wasn't even written by god so who's to say it's god's word anyway?

 

[TerminatorCortez]

1. because i won't be part of any group who believe child molesting priests, money-worshiping televangelists, and pastors in $2,000 suits are the intermediaries between me and God, and because of the vicious absurdity of the bible, which condones murder as a suitable punishment for homosexuality, adultery, shaving, hair cutting, women speaking out in public, and eating shellfish, then commands "thou shalt not kill". oh, and because it sanctions slavery and animal sacrifices, and calls crippled or mentally retarded people "unclean" in the eyes of God.

2. expect to be rewarded for being true to myself instead of "believing" in Him just to try to avoid hell. and for never killing, raping, enslaving, abusing, or intentionally harming anybody.

3. i dislike religion in general; i view all of them as a tool for manipulative schemers to control minds and coax obedience and wealth from the gullible, and to eliminate dissenters. i hate the god described in the Old Testament...murderous, jealous, easily provoked to wrath, abusive to his most loyal servants, and easily fooled by satan (see the story of Job). the God Jesus speaks of seems much more loving and void of the human flaws of the Old Testament god.

4. i pity most who believe in a god. brainwashed souls frightened into believing a bunch of ridiculous fairy tales that no sane human would pay any mind to. that includes ALL religions, not just christianity. i do have hatred for some people of faith, namely those who persecute, harm, and/or oppress others in the name of their religion.

5. if Christians and their churches actually governed themselves according to Jesus' ACTUAL teachings (the words in red) i would probably be one. unfortunately, THOSE teachings (humility, charity, pacifism, unconditional love from God and among all people, service to the poor and the "least among us", forgiveness for all who repent, rejecting greed and corruption) don't seem to be very popular ones. apparently dictating government policy, forcing prayer in schools, encouraging AIDS and overpopulation by forbidding contraception, attacking minorities, warmongering, and amassing obscene amounts of wealth is the name of the game for most "Christian" organizations.

Well to me you seem brainwashed, Typical Atheist always criticize the church... The Church is nothing. Becoming an atheist because you don't like what the church is doing is just stupid. Like Jesus said your religion should be between you and your God XD. Btw a lot of stuff in the bible have been proven... all the kings of the old testament are real... the great temple that the Jewish had build is still here( what's left of it ). Pontius Pilate the one who had condemned Jesus is still in old roman archives... And you didn't understand the story of Job XD. Well most Atheist don't fully understand the bible, I was exactly like you before it takes some smart thinking to understand it. And you know what's funny even Jesus warned us about fake preachers who doing evil.

 

[acefrost]

snip of awesome

Well to me you seem like someone who knows what he is talking about.