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rashreflection said:
seth = S+ (still below sagat though)
gouken = borderline S+/S
rose = high end of A
sakura & dan = low end of A
fei & gen = B
cammy = maybe B, maybe in her own separate C tier, she really is the worst
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I wouldn't say Seth is S+, MAYBE S but his health is a huge problem and some characters can just fuck him really hard even when he's doing what he's good at (running away). He has a really nice moveset and tandem engine is totally fucking broke, but 1 fadc combo is still pretty much death on him. I'd rather put him in A tier myself.

Gouken is A. He's dangerous but he has no anti air and no way of stopping rushdown on him other than guessing right and landing a counter. On the other hand, he does the same to others, he's pretty unstoppable once he gets you in that corner and he does that pretty well. But whenever I play as him seriously, I feel like I need to take control of the match as soon as possible otherwise I'll have to work twice as hard for anything.

I agree with the rest tho.
 
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Seth can do just about everything, and he has the tools to handle almost any situation. Focusing on defense since that's obviously the issue with him...

- Reversal teleport is golden at midscreen, just KILLS Fuerte's mixups and such. Only thing is that there is a risk of punch teleport giving you EX DP due to the stupid overlapping motions, but the kick teleports are still fine IIRC.

- Regular DP and EX SPD force the opponent to either guess what you'll do on wakeup or just back off and let you free.

- Apparently his low jab is 3 frames just like Balrog's, making it risky to tick throw him.

- Wall jump gets you out of the corner free once you can create any kind of gap.


Even beyond this, he shouldn't get caught in these situations very often in the first place. Good players are already suggesting he has strong wins over Gief and Rog, and if that's the case then I'm pretty sure most other characters would follow.


I am not nearly as knowledgeable about Gouken, I just figured he would have a problem against the Gief/Rog/Blanka types but do well against the rest. I guess Rufus might be a problem, but getting close plays into Gouken's hands as well so I'm not sure.
 
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