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People that don't practice and don't do the research on their own just won't get it if you explain it to them. They have to WANT to learn, rather than just teaching AT them. Aim Friend A to this site, let him do the research, get into the community, study his char of choice. If he wants to learn, all of the resources and tools he'd ever need are right here. He just has to have the motivation for it.
 
Discipline like a father. Nurture like a mother. Encourage as a friend.
That's the short and sweet way to describe: how to get salty people back into sweet people.
 
Faust: See if there's any pro SC or SF players in your area and invite them over with your buddies. You'll probably lose. A lot. I think they need to see you lose in SC, since right now they probably see the game as 'broken,' even though you've showed them it's not. And your SF-playing friend needs a lesson in humility, followed by, "listen to that guy, he's smart."
 
MammothMan said:
People that don't practice and don't do the research on their own just won't get it if you explain it to them. They have to WANT to learn, rather than just teaching AT them. Aim Friend A to this site, let him do the research, get into the community, study his char of choice. If he wants to learn, all of the resources and tools he'd ever need are right here. He just has to have the motivation for it.
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I tried to pull up some stuff here for him when he was here, took the time to explain some terminology to him, and he was even offered a copy of the game to take home and practice with. He doesn't seem so into learning as he thinks he is and it feels like he just wants that instant gratification that a number of 2d fighters could give him. That and he plays DOA4 as his primary fighter, so I don't know what to tell him.

But he told me he didn't have an interest in getting into the details of the game. He just wanted combos that were quick and painless.

Archangel said:
Faust: See if there's any pro SC or SF players in your area and invite them over with your buddies. You'll probably lose. A lot. I think they need to see you lose in SC, since right now they probably see the game as 'broken,' even though you've showed them it's not. And your SF-playing friend needs a lesson in humility, followed by, "listen to that guy, he's smart."
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I've actually met up with a guy from here at a local get together who's much better than me. He reminded me to get back on here to meet up with some people and get back into my old groove. So now I get the pleasure of getting my tail handed to be twice a month (which one of my friends was supposed to show up at, but instead dumped out for something else) which has been a real treat. But I also never played a lot of good Ivy players so my experience vs the guy is limited to playing him twice a month.

As for the SF guy, he's learned his lesson I'm sure. Being told that his game wasn't valid for "hang out time" simply because he couldn't suck up a couple of actual losses chilled his mood out a lot. His lessons in humility have come over the last month gradually from him losing at a couple of game she thought he had over me and now clearly doesn't. Still, it doesn't seem to make much of a difference since he defaults back to wanting to play SF4 whenever he starts losing and refuses to accept any sort of tip I throw his way.


EDIT: Sorry if I seem a naysayer, but thanks a mil to you guys. It's been a big help reading your replies.
 
Sounds like SC is not a game for him. It's no instant gratification game, it's one of the most thought out and strategic fighters in existence.
 
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