Rock Band (2)
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The Landslide
[13] Hero
Man, Jaxel you sure care a lot about stuff that nobody cares about.
Doesn't stop you from being 100% right, but DAY-UM
Doesn't stop you from being 100% right, but DAY-UM
iKotomi
[10] Knight
Heh, I wasn't even aware that I was arguing with Jaxel but whatever.
As for the differences between consoles go, I think equality is a horrible standard when it comes to multi-platform games, or a lot of things for that matter. I'm not arguing that it doesn't happen, or even that its unfair, I'm arguing that its a legitimate excuse to complain. When suppliers release worse products because they can cut corners by intentionally doing less work, the consumer loses out. I happen to be a consumer and I'd rather have more surplus than less. It just so happens that if you own a ps3, you will lose out on more potential happiness than a 360 owner.
As for bluetooth battery life, I'll admit that I don't know enough about it since I don't have a benchmark to compare to. I prefer wires myself because they are reliable, and will always do their job better (though the difference is becoming less and less noticeable). But it seemed to me that bluetooth uses relatively little power, considering the common use of bluetooth in things like headsets and computer peripherals. Heck, the ps3 controller itself is running on bluetooth and it seems to have enough battery life. Now whether this is a result of a lot of money spent on the programming, I can't really tell, since I've never needed to program for bluetooth. With the ps3 controller, I can see a lot of funding being allocated if needed due to the necessity for it to actually last the entire generation, and sony willing to lose money on controller sales if the bluetooth technology would have made it prohibitively expensive to the consumer.
Though when you say bluetooth is a horrible technology, that makes me wonder, compared to what? I can't think of a technology out there that will get you the same performance to cost ratio. If there was one, it would probably be better known.
As for the differences between consoles go, I think equality is a horrible standard when it comes to multi-platform games, or a lot of things for that matter. I'm not arguing that it doesn't happen, or even that its unfair, I'm arguing that its a legitimate excuse to complain. When suppliers release worse products because they can cut corners by intentionally doing less work, the consumer loses out. I happen to be a consumer and I'd rather have more surplus than less. It just so happens that if you own a ps3, you will lose out on more potential happiness than a 360 owner.
As for bluetooth battery life, I'll admit that I don't know enough about it since I don't have a benchmark to compare to. I prefer wires myself because they are reliable, and will always do their job better (though the difference is becoming less and less noticeable). But it seemed to me that bluetooth uses relatively little power, considering the common use of bluetooth in things like headsets and computer peripherals. Heck, the ps3 controller itself is running on bluetooth and it seems to have enough battery life. Now whether this is a result of a lot of money spent on the programming, I can't really tell, since I've never needed to program for bluetooth. With the ps3 controller, I can see a lot of funding being allocated if needed due to the necessity for it to actually last the entire generation, and sony willing to lose money on controller sales if the bluetooth technology would have made it prohibitively expensive to the consumer.
Though when you say bluetooth is a horrible technology, that makes me wonder, compared to what? I can't think of a technology out there that will get you the same performance to cost ratio. If there was one, it would probably be better known.
Jaxel
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Bluetooth isn't the only wireless standard... there is also the newer WUSB (Wireless-USB) standards; not to mention, the straight up IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n standards. Out of all three standards, Bluetooth is undeniably the worst of them all. It does have more range than WUSB, but it has less range than 802.11; and the more range you need, the more power it consumes. Meanwhile, it has a lower data transfer rate than either of it's major competitors. This is why BLuetooth is only used for small-scale applications, keyboards, mice, and headsets. It is also the most expensive of the three. The only advantage Bluetooth has is its user-friendliness... the standard makes it very easy to sync and desync to multiple devices.
The power consumption problems with Bluetooth is a widely known problem. Its such an issue that simply turning off the Bluetooth reciever on your cell phone will probably triple it's battery life. Its such an issue that Sony didn't originally plan for a DualShock3 controller... they had yet to figure out how to redesign the technology so controllers wouldn't die out after only 4 hours of play. (Bluetooth + Rumble = nuclear bomb?) But yes... wires are the way too go in essential applications. But if I had a choice between non-standardized WiFi and Bluetooth, I would go with Bluetooth. The Rockband 2 controllers use non-standardized WiFi... it was the only way to make a design that would accomodate both 360 and PS3... damn 360.
The power consumption problems with Bluetooth is a widely known problem. Its such an issue that simply turning off the Bluetooth reciever on your cell phone will probably triple it's battery life. Its such an issue that Sony didn't originally plan for a DualShock3 controller... they had yet to figure out how to redesign the technology so controllers wouldn't die out after only 4 hours of play. (Bluetooth + Rumble = nuclear bomb?) But yes... wires are the way too go in essential applications. But if I had a choice between non-standardized WiFi and Bluetooth, I would go with Bluetooth. The Rockband 2 controllers use non-standardized WiFi... it was the only way to make a design that would accomodate both 360 and PS3... damn 360.
iKotomi
[10] Knight
Bluetooth is cheaper than 802.11 when you are working with small throughput at short distances, which a lot of wireless applications involve. Its not like your wireless controller is trying to output 100 mbps from 150 feet away. Oh, and 802.11 isn't a pinnacle of energy efficiency either...anything wireless is bound to take more power, that's a given.