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lets talk about Nightmare 1a. imp 29 frames, on block -21. i try not to use this online as everyone says its a lag low and i agree but what about these moves.
Cervantes 3a:b imp 29 -18, 11a imp 26 -15
Asta 1k imp 27 -16
Cass FC 1b imp 29 -14
Hilde 2 A+B imp 31 -9, 33b imp 27 -20, 11k imp 28 -12
Kilik FC 1B imp 29 -8, 1_3 A+B imp 25 -16, 2 A+K imp 32 -16, 11b imp 30 -14
Lizardman 11a imp 28 -12
Maxi FCaaa_412 both imp 27 -20, FC1a imp 30 -12, 3A+K imp 27 -21, 11a imp 29 -20, 22k imp 25 -16
Raphael Prep k imp 31 -17
Yoshi 214a imp 28 -17, 11a imp 33 -15
Sets 2A+B imp 29 -16, 11a imp 29 -16
Sig 2A+B imp 28 -16, A+K JF imp 32 -15, SBH A+B imp 36 -11
Voldo BS 2b imp 25 -22, BS 22k imp 31 -22, BS 44k imp 28 -21
i'm sure there some i'm forgetting about.

i see this shit everyday from confirmed players from this site. not everyone just some players. all these moves have about the same frames. yet if i 1a you 1 time i'm spamming you out lol. the reason is nightmare 1a in GS kk will ring your ass out from distance so everyone wants to call it cheap then Cervy 3a:b me to death lol but hey it has the same frames as the moves above so why not. the worst is Maxi's chucks on the feet low sweep shit and some of Sig low sweeps. why is it ok to use these moves but no 1a from Nighty???
 
A lot of the moves mentioned, I still consider lag-lows, but their animation is unique. It's hard to tell Nighty's 1A, from his slower(I think??) 11B, which can be reacted to, even on-line. Although I agree, people love to give explanations on why stuff is hard to block on-line, when some of them are very valid points.

Just go play off-line, 1A all you want, and laugh when someone says that you lag low'd em... HA!
 
i think you meant 4b not 11b "11b is low as well" it kinda looks like the 1a animation. as far as offline goes i tried to get a couple peeps from this site to get together for some games but one of them never replied back and the other had a couple of issues i just didnt feel like dealing with. no offense dapinkpwner i just didnt feel like meeting the parents and everything lol. anyways yeah i agree those are lag lows but doesnt stop people from using them. i played someone from here the other day and got hit by Cervy 3a:b at least 10 times in match so i did 1a GS kk one time to teach them a lesson and they quit lol.
 
i think you meant 4b not 11b "11b is low as well" it kinda looks like the 1a animation. as far as offline goes i tried to get a couple peeps from this site to get together for some games but one of them never replied back and the other had a couple of issues i just didnt feel like dealing with. no offense dapinkpwner i just didnt feel like meeting the parents and everything lol. anyways yeah i agree those are lag lows but doesnt stop people from using them. i played someone from here the other day and got hit by Cervy 3a:b at least 10 times in match so i did 1a GS kk one time to teach them a lesson and they quit lol.

Who was that CERVY !@? lol
 
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