Petition to get Soul Calibur V on GGPO

[Egg]

What this petition is saying is close to that fact that GOOD NETCODE IS IMPORANT.

This is the reason I signed the petition.

 

[ShenYu]

I signed because I just want them to understand we want something non-terrible.

 

[SolidSonic]

tekken is even worse than sc4. you guys are crazy.

Dark Resurrection, sure (WORST. EVER.). Tekken 6 was smoother for me than it was in Soul Calibur IV.

 

[BLACKSTAR]

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Good address. The only reason I even mentioned what I did in my post is because I get the feeling, as I read this thread, that GGPO is the savior/end-all-be-all of good network code. I'm simply saying that it is not, and giving reasons why; all simply for the sake of the information and nothing else. I'm definitely in support of good netcode, as it's the main way I get play other people.

1. graphical effects at different times aren't produced out of thin air -- the presence, intensity, scope of a light source, how it effects objects in the game world, the state of the 'camera' in which the gamer views the game world, which subsequently decides what polygons get rendered, textures used, etc -- all of these elements and much much more NOT ONLY need to be stored, but also mathematically calculated, processed and rendered on screen to be displayed, etc. Graphical effects, those that are AND are not on screen need alot of storage and cpu resources and the use of the (unmodified) GGPO technique is not possible without restructuring (and adding restrictions) the graphics engine used

2. i don't think there's a 'low res' or 'high res' version of the dbz game. that's how it looks, and if you compare it to SF4, SC4, VF5, or even tekken, and dbz looks less impressive. 4 player gameplay doesn't help matters much, but every thing you mentioned adds to what i said before

3. agreed

4. this doesn't even make sense. you seriously think that Harada doesn't talk to his programmers? and like I said, if you want to hear the statement for yourself, check out the avoidingthepuddle podcast with harada and daishi

5. SF4 and Marvel DON'T use GGPO. that's all I said. I just re-stated information specifically about GGPO stated by them. Ono also has network coders that I'm preeeeeeetty sure he talks to once and awhile.

I just don't like when people sign up for things without knowledge ANY of what they are or what they can do. I don't like bandwagon mentality at all.

I understand the concerns about netcode, because I share them. But if you think GGPO will magically solve all netcode issues, then you are simply mistaken. GGPO itself is not your answer. Daishi mentioned on his twitter and in other forms of media about how he understands the importance of netcode. Because of all this, I don't see the point of the petition. I see the concern for it, but theres no real point.

i'm not trying to troll, i'll stop posting if it seems like that

 

[D_Matt_Ma]

I think NB tried this out on some their other less profitable titles first to learn the technology without risking big money. By the time SC5 comes out, I think they will be ready for this.