Microsoft Caves Regarding XboxOne Issues

[0VincentRayne0]

Didn't Sony have more fuck ups then MS in the past?

the only thing Sony had as their fuck-up was that huge account hacking problem where PSN was shut down for a while. but they kinda made up for it by giving gamers that were affected, a free game. and PSN does do free money giveaways occasionally as well. and Playstation plus is da bomb.

aw, who am i kidding. sony has been shitting on Xbox since the start. i remember getting phantasy start so i could play it online.

pay fee for xbox live + pay fee to play phantasy star on xbox live = fuck dat!

you don't get free games and discounts for paying for xbox live. how come Sony knows how to treat the people that pay but Xbox doesn't have a clue but on how to abuse?

 

[Norik]

pay fee for xbox live + pay fee to play phantasy star on xbox live = fuck dat!

While I'm far from being an Xbox supporter, I can't help but note the hypocrisy of comments like this. It's like everyone and their mother decided to play Sony fanboy and totally ignore the fact that the folks at Sony are also gonna charge a fee for their standard online service and leave online DRM (including online passes and such) entirely up to the developer. Also, it's been a whole month since E3, are you seriously still blinded by the hype fog? PS4 is gonna be more like original Xbox One than the Xbox One itself.

That is not to say I support Microsoft's BS and flip-flopping, but at this point both consoles are just about the same in terms of policies and raw power (2010 PCs with used games and disguised DRM). And honestly, with the exception of Killer Instinct [and maybe Beyond], neither console really has any exclusive games that look good enough to justify a $400+ purchase. There's absolutely nothing noteworthy here that isn't already being done with 7th-gen consoles. Project Spark and Secret Ponchos are the only remotely original ideas, and two of the only four games announced for either console that don't scream lifeless dudebro garbage (with the other two being KI, which will be a bitch online because of f2p being Jago only; and Minecraft, which has already been played to death by millions of people).

Now add to that the fact that many of the PS4 exclusives everyone had been waiting for, like KH3 and FFXV, have been announced to be multiplatform, and you've got yourself two nearly-identical consoles... except for the fact that the XBO will have an awesome controller and a super-hype-looking fighting game on release, while the PS4 will have a pad that looks like you're holding two black cocks and a bunch of downgraded PC ports (for $100 less). And neither one will move on to digital distribution like they should have done seven years ago. AND there's no backwards compatibility AT ALL... on release anyway, when 7th-gen games are still relevant.

And you know the worst part of it? Most people I've talked to IRL about this say they're actually pretty hype for the Xbox One, even the CoD haters.

 

[The Landslide]

Can we all stop being retards plz

 

[0VincentRayne0]

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whoa there. i don't think there was any hypocrisy in my comment at all. considering i don't pay to play online right now nor do i play any pay-to-play games at the moment. Microsoft screwed up by announcing things that us, gamers, didn't like. the same stuff that even Sony had on their console. the thing was, Sony was quicker to act and listen to their consumers. Xbox got shown up at the big competition (E3) by Sony and that's a big deal. even if Micro finally decided to change something about their console it's a little late in the game. that's like doing shit in the olympics then suddenly finding your motivation after the games are finished. (bad example but you get what i mean.) right now PS4 is ahead of Xbox in every way i can think of at the moment. Sony even got a head start with their PS3 exclusive games that are going to close out the 3rd gen console generation into the 4th. The Last of Us, Final Fantasy 14, and Beyond. All coming out back-to-back. What's Xbox got? i'm not a fanboy and i went into this console war as neutral. Hell, i had a gamecube first, then i wanted an Xbox in highschool, then i traded that for a PS3 because a hell of a lot more games appealed to me. the only thing that ruined for me (the switch) was that i didn't care for achievements (trophies) for the PS3 since i worked my ass off for them on xbox.

 

[Norik]

Microsoft screwed up by announcing things that us, gamers, didn't like. the same stuff that even Sony had on their console. the thing was, Sony was quicker to act and listen to their consumers. Xbox got shown up at the big competition (E3) by Sony and that's a big deal.

But in the end the PS4 also has a lot of the stuff "gamers" (I hate that word) didn't like, the only difference being that MS at least had the decency of being honest about it, while Sony only confessed it briefly long after the main show had ended and their hype marketing had done its job. In fact, MS took note and fixed the DRM policies, while PS4 was very well aware of people's dislike for them- but they kept them anyway.

even if Micro finally decided to change something about their console it's a little late in the game.

Another statement I'd strongly disagree with. The consoles are not even out, for all we know Xbox could vastly outsell PS if they play the right cards at the right time. Their marketing department is doing a superb job, as I said before I know a lot of people who are really hyped for it. They've also got a release-day exclusive in pretty much every relevant genre right now. So no, I wouldn't say they fucked up too hard, it's just a vocal minority in major gaming sites that make it seem as if PS4 is "winning."

Oh, and now preorders for both consoles are sold out on Amazon. A huge number of consoles have already been sold on Amazon with Day-1 delivery, more Xboxes than PS4s.