Madnis
[12] Conqueror
Mickey Mouse just bought out Tony Stark Indust
can i come in? or are you guys going to argue amongst yourselves?
to add to this discussion, pixar was/is comprised of mostly of ex-disney animators. so they always had a close relationship with disney. and then when disney went bankrupt and closed up shop, guess where all those animators went? to pixar, dreamworks etc etc.. but. the animators at pixar were more or less all former disney employees. heh.
to add even more,
pixar I believe was under contract with disney for a lot of their films. if not all. I can't think of one film off the top of my head that wasn't a short film that wasn't contracted with disney. they had a five movie deal. toy story was part of a different contract and toy story 2 for some odd reason didn't count. that left:
bugs life
monsters inc
finding nemo
the incredibles
and lastly as everyone saw it: the big fuck you to disney
cars. (but cars actually turned out to be a pleasant surprise)
shortly thereafter disney bought pixar. guess it sold it to them? steve jobs. the very same as mac and what not.
now, throughout all of this, disney was struggling in a market where the animation world was moving to 3d, their traditional animations weren't selling in theaters and their 3d movies such as dinosaur was just way beyond them. they pulled it off, but if i remember my prof (PHIL YOUNG!!) right, working on dinosaur was a nightmare for old 2d animators such as him. granted after they got the hang of it it was back to work. but that's neither here nor there. fact is tech gap was part of the reason old disney fell. that and poor leadership. but again, neither here nor there.
what i want to say here, is that disney and pixar were not competeting against each other. yes they both continued to bring out films but they weren't really ever in direct competition with one another.
I believe disney movies tended to come out sparringly at that time as well because again, disney was broke.
and aside from competeing in television, their film department closed up a long time ago. it's just reopening with that frog princess movie i believe. and i think disney movies released in early summer late spring time, and pixar owned the holidays. and that's how they made money.
if i had to put this to an analogy
they were about in the same amount of competition as a game company releasing two triple A titles in the same month. which doesn't really happen. the company releases the game in differen quarters to make money. (^ ^)V
and yeah to throw in a little plug, if you really are interested in the world of animation and wanting to stay up to date in the know, be sure to frequent AWN (Animation world network). and if you can get it, animation magazine.
two essential guides to the world of animation.
can i come in? or are you guys going to argue amongst yourselves?
to add to this discussion, pixar was/is comprised of mostly of ex-disney animators. so they always had a close relationship with disney. and then when disney went bankrupt and closed up shop, guess where all those animators went? to pixar, dreamworks etc etc.. but. the animators at pixar were more or less all former disney employees. heh.
to add even more,
pixar I believe was under contract with disney for a lot of their films. if not all. I can't think of one film off the top of my head that wasn't a short film that wasn't contracted with disney. they had a five movie deal. toy story was part of a different contract and toy story 2 for some odd reason didn't count. that left:
bugs life
monsters inc
finding nemo
the incredibles
and lastly as everyone saw it: the big fuck you to disney
cars. (but cars actually turned out to be a pleasant surprise)
shortly thereafter disney bought pixar. guess it sold it to them? steve jobs. the very same as mac and what not.
now, throughout all of this, disney was struggling in a market where the animation world was moving to 3d, their traditional animations weren't selling in theaters and their 3d movies such as dinosaur was just way beyond them. they pulled it off, but if i remember my prof (PHIL YOUNG!!) right, working on dinosaur was a nightmare for old 2d animators such as him. granted after they got the hang of it it was back to work. but that's neither here nor there. fact is tech gap was part of the reason old disney fell. that and poor leadership. but again, neither here nor there.
what i want to say here, is that disney and pixar were not competeting against each other. yes they both continued to bring out films but they weren't really ever in direct competition with one another.
I believe disney movies tended to come out sparringly at that time as well because again, disney was broke.
and aside from competeing in television, their film department closed up a long time ago. it's just reopening with that frog princess movie i believe. and i think disney movies released in early summer late spring time, and pixar owned the holidays. and that's how they made money.
if i had to put this to an analogy
they were about in the same amount of competition as a game company releasing two triple A titles in the same month. which doesn't really happen. the company releases the game in differen quarters to make money. (^ ^)V
and yeah to throw in a little plug, if you really are interested in the world of animation and wanting to stay up to date in the know, be sure to frequent AWN (Animation world network). and if you can get it, animation magazine.
two essential guides to the world of animation.