Mass Effect 3!

[Age_of_Truth]

Excellent. Let's take a look at what you just said:

Why are you trying to pick a fight?

How can you say that you experienced something different than we did and think you have any right to judge us?

Hmm.

If your usual response to people you disagree with is passive aggressive snarkiness and petty insults

People are so stupid and so easily bamboozled.

Interesting.

You can't argue with fanatics

... I am disappointed in humanity when I see these comments... They didn't do anything for our benefit. They made 97% of their fan base turn against them thanks to their massive egos that still can not process that everything they produce is not chocolate covered gold... In order to placate the fan base and sell their DLC they begrudgingly made peace offerings. Meanwhile in every interview those responsible continue to insist that the problem was not the endings but that we are philistines. Nothing was done for our sake but for theirs.

I see.

Profit motive and damage control are perfectly logical motivations, particularly for a large corporation. What's yours? EA loves you? Do you actually have a logical counter argument or did you just want to let me know I hurt your feelings?

Do I have a logical counter-argument. You mean the fact that I liked the endings? And the fact that I have spent hours and hours detailing my reasons in posts to Destinizish over the last few days?
Perhaps you'd actually like to make logical counter-arguments of your own? Probably easier for you to just say :

...you planted yourself in a camp already.

EA loves you

If you're gonna ignore all my posts about why I thought the end was good, then come back and make a comment insinuating that everyone who liked the ending is an idiot and just "don't get it", what did you think would happen? How exactly is this me picking a fight with you?

 

[Ghengis_John]

Hmm.

That's not picking a fight. I asked why you think you have any right to judge us when you couldn't know what it was like to be us and that's what I meant. You said you weren't judging and nothing more came of it. Isn't that right? Was that picking a fight then?

Interesting.

The only thing that's interesting about it is what a stretch you're making. I'm not responding to anyone directly, and more importantly it has nothing to do with what they think of the endings but that they bought into the bioware snow job. Context. I even said:

Disregarding what I think of the ending(s).

Which you, conveniently chose to neglect. That means that is not the important part. Don't go getting upset because you chose to distort reality.

I see.

What you want to, clearly. If I were a fanatic I would have insulted you already to your face, written you off and been done with it. You clearly missed a lot of the drama that happened between the time the game came out and when you beat it. 97% of the fan base did disapprove of the original ending(s): http://social.bioware.com/633606/polls/28989 As for the "chocolate covered gold" and "Philistines" remarks, these relate directly to statements made by Casey Hudson and Drew Karpyshyn that only made things worse.

Do I have a logical counter-argument. You mean the fact that I liked the endings? And the fact that I have spent hours and hours detailing my reasons in posts to Destinizish over the last few days?

Given what I was asking "Liking" the endings doesn't comprise a logical counter argument. I don't know if anything could though, given that the only thing you seem to want to argue is that I'm a jerk. You're grasping at straws because you're mad. I must admit, no offense, but I did ignore those posts, because they were huge. If you want to spend hours and hours arguing that has nothing to do with me, and if you feel bad about getting bashed for that time you invested then know it was youtube comments and not you that were on my mind when I made that post. If you'll read engared's post he post he says "YouTube comments". When I say "what comments" I am also referring to youtube comments. If you don't want to believe the truth, that those comments were not directed at you, when I tell it to you I don't know what I'm supposed to do about it. Having an unconstructive exchange seems like a bad option though.

Perhaps you'd actually like to make logical counter-arguments of your own? Probably easier for you to just say :

I have, if you want to ignore them I can't do anything about that. Here's one that I like:

Profit motive and damage control are perfectly logical motivations, particularly for a large corporation.

When are you going to make one? You're being unreasonable, quit being so emotional. You said my logic sucked on Bioware's motives, I asked how and your answer is basically "I like stuff... You're a tool!" I am not the people who have been insulting you on the bioware forums. Stop trying to make me those people. I do not care to fight their battles nor be their stand ins. I suspect as you say this argument has consumed your life the past few days that you're overly sensitive about it at this point and ready to raise the flamesheilds and enter battle mode at the slightest provocation.

If you're gonna ignore all my posts about why I thought the end was good, then come back and make a comment insinuating that everyone who liked the ending is an idiot and just "don't get it", what did you think would happen? How exactly is this me picking a fight with you?

Wasn't addressed to you. I didn't quote you, I didn't know you thought Bioware was perfect and I didn't know you thought they made the new endings for our sake which is the meat of the issue for me. Did you say those things? I didn't read your posts so I don't know but if not, then be cool.

If you did, well then "whoops", wasn't intentional. Really. I'm sorry that you understood it that way, but at the same time I don't think I did anything wrong. If you want to argue about this for hours and hours, know that I don't want to. "You insulted me!", "No I didn't.", "Yes you did", That is a stupid and a pointless argument and I don't care to have it. It's different for you since you think you've been wronged, I understand, but I don't even know you and I don't need the stress. I try to be moderately nice to everyone but if you're going to be hard headed about it then it's not like you're my brother or my girlfriend where I'm obligated to put up with it. I'm not mad and I don't want to get there. I've told you the truth about aiming those remarks at you and its up to you to accept it or not. You're free to argue about mass effect till the cows come home. If you still insist on trying to prove my intentions towards you again or persist in trying to insult me however then I will call you a dinner table and bid you good day.

 

[Age_of_Truth]

snip.

Dude I can't be bothered to get into an extended argument either, but your post actually had me cracking up. So much of it is so confused and contradictory, I'd pretty much have to quote the entire thing to show you all the things that are wrong with it.

A couple of examples just cos you'll otherwise probably think (as demonstrated by your grasp of logic above) that I'm copping out:

Picking a fight: you picked a fight, and I diffused it by explaining again what I'd already said. You're now picking a fight again, and this time I don't feel like rolling over and being the passive guy any more. Try READING THE EARLY POSTS to see this.

Bioware snow job: dude this is YOUR OPINION. If someone doesn't think it was a "Bioware snow job", then you're insulting them by saying "you didn't get it" and "sucker you're buying into it". It's another attack.

Masses of stuff you wrote was just so nonsensical it doesn't even need explaining. I hope when you re-read it you'll at least understand this. E.g.

"I didn't know you thought Bioware was perfect"
"Which you, conveniently chose to neglect. That means that is not the important part. Don't go getting upset because you chose to distort reality."
"You said my logic sucked on Bioware's motives, I asked how and your answer is basically "I like stuff... You're a tool!"

It's good how you're trying to reduce what I said to stuff like this. Rather than actually trying to understand it. It's also good how you're trying to claim that I'm "getting emotional" and that I got "insulted on the Bioware forums" (what???). Especially when you're making comments like

"chocolate covered gold" and "Philistines" (I Googled these excessively chilish remarks and - guess what comes up? Nothing. Except some guy whining on some forum called 8wayrun)
"the only thing you seem to want to argue is that I'm a jerk"
"it's not like you're my brother or my girlfriend where I'm obligated to put up with it."
"You said my logic sucked on Bioware's motives, I asked how" Oh, really? Because my memory was that I made a point about your own contradictions on Bioware's motivation, you missed that point, and then said "What's your [motivation]?" EA loves you?"

But yeah. I'm the one getting emotional. Dude, I would recommend that you give up on this one, because you're painting a picture of yourself that is hopelessly confused.

 

[Ghengis_John]

Dude I can't be bothered to get into an extended argument either, but your post actually had me cracking up. So much of it is so confused and contradictory, I'd pretty much have to quote the entire thing to show you all the things that are wrong with it.

A couple of examples just cos you'll otherwise probably think (as demonstrated by your grasp of logic above) that I'm copping out:

You seem pretty emotionally invested from the fact you can't drop it. I on the other hand don't care enough to attempt to continue arguing with an idiot.

Good day.

 

[Age_of_Truth]

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Brilliant. You're comparing me, as someone who liked the ending of ME3, to someone who drew a Hitler moustache on a picture of Obama. You are a gosh darn genius my friend.

GGs criticising me for not addressing your points, even though I did, and Destinizish's points, over and over again.

GGs for using a YouTube video with an amusing quote to try to validate the meaningless, puerile drivel that you are posting in this thread. I guess in your head, a crowd of onlookers can be heard clapping for you as you made this point... er wait... what was your point again?

GGs calling me an idiot. My posts include examples of, and reasoning for, the claims I've made to back them up, because I actually bothered to explain what I said. Your posts include nothing except childish ranting.

GGs in bidding me good day and then coming straight back. You're hitting your points (?) home hard.