Learning the guitar thread!!!

Just to be clear, I think tabs are worse than sheet music. I am not advocating trying to be a musician by using tabs. All I am saying is, being able to read sheet music is not a prerequisite for being a musician, especially in mainstream music. After a while you will play with the thoughts and ideas and from listening. There isn't any sheet music for pop songs that can be considered realiable, and musicians won't use it.

If you want to play classical or jazz or session stuff / stage shows, it's a different story. Also, it really helps to know some kinds of notations for the stuff you're playing, to more easily write stuff and communicate your ideas to others. But whatever this notation is, it isn't dependent on reading sheet music.
 
HRD said:
Damn after reading that last few posts I realize that Im a "guitar playing scrub" cause I dont know how to read sheet music. But I can read tabs and I can rock the fuck outta some major chords. Needless to say I can play almost every green day/ramones known to man.

On the rock band thing. Doesnt rockband/guitar hero at least teach you rythmic fundamentals and finger movement? Thats bout really all I can think of. But at least theres something......right?
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You're not a guitar playing scrub.

I mean... You would be if you were like "I'M A SHINY GOLDEN GOD!" and didn't know what the difference between Am and C (referring to the key signature)... But a scrub really is someone who thinks that they're awesome, but really isn't. I don't get that from you at all.
Age_of_Truth said:
I'm not advising that you actually choose not to learn to read music! But it's not essential. Depends what you want
Synraii said:
Guitar hero actually got me into learning Bass 6 years ago, lol. If nothing else I guess it makes learning a real instrument seem more accesible... =/
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That's sort of the argument period. If your intention is be a musician vs. being a guy who can play a guitar, you're going to have to do the hard stuff.

Again. "Tab is useful for learning, but after awhile it will become a crutch."

I advise against just using TAB because if your intention is like mine, well... I've got my work cut out for me.

Sorry if my comments were misunderstood.

Heaton said:
It does a good job of teaching rhythm, and probably does a better job than most metronomes since it gives an easy to understand "right vs wrong" for beginners to recognize - I've seen people play to what they thought was a 4/4 beat, and it sounds like they're switching between 3/8 and 10/4 or something ridiculous.

As for finger movement, music games honestly have more in common with typing than guitar, I think. You're using the same hand muscles but in different ways, and either way you're going to have to build up muscle memory for what you're playing anyway. If your hands are naturally slow then playing Rock Band might help to improve your dexterity and alacrity, but then again so would any hand exercise centered on rapid, precise movement.
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Just as we get better from playing people offline in SC, we're going to get better playing actual guitar with an actual means of doing so.

I mean (in the big picture), I'm okay at guitar. Sure, I'm no Joe Satriani, but the thing is that, well... Rock band really really really really REALLY just doesn't translate in any way shape or form.

My point is this: Why learn a song with a plastic guitar when you can learn it on the real thing?
 
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Hey, guys!

Those who are lucky enough to glance upon this post will find themselves an EXTREMELY useful tool for jamming/songwriting/sightreading/playing guitar.

Get a some flash cards (10 in all)

In treble clef (obviously) write in 3 ledger lines and write in the following 3 notes in a melodic manner

E, F, G

on the back of the card, write in TAB the note's placement on the guitar neck

e
B
G
D
A
E 0, 1, 3

Use this same idea on the rest of the notes. Please note that as we go on, the notes are higher on the staff. Some notes will be the same note quality, but in a higher octave.

A, B, C

e
B
G
D
A 0, 2, 3
E 5, 7, 8

D, E, F

e
B
G
D 0, 2, 3
A 5, 7, 8
E 10, 12, 13

G ,A

e
B
G 0, 2
D 5 ,7
A 10, 12
E 15 ,17

B, C, D


e
B 0, 1, 3
G 4, 5, 7
D 9,10, 12
A 14, 15, 17
E 19, 20, 22

E, F, G


e 0, 1, 3
B 5, 6, 8
G 9, 10, 12
D 14, 15, 17
A 19, 20, 22
E

A, B, C


e 5, 7, 8
B 10, 12, 13
G 14, 16, 17
D 19, 21, 22
A
E

D, E, F

e 10, 12, 13
B 15, 17, 18
G 19, 21, 22
D
A
E

G, A


e 15, 17
B 20, 22
G
D
A
E


B, C, D


e 19, 20, 22
B
G
D
A
E

Notice a pattern here?

With these flash cards ready, you have a direct and literal translation from sheet music to the note's placement on the guitar!

Pretty cool, huh?

With practice, it will become second nature to locate and memorize note placement and sheet music won't be such a mystery. That, and you'll memorize ALL of the notes on the guitar neck! (Time signatures, Rhythm, other stuff will be posted when I find a short cut for them, too)


Enjoy your short cut to memorizing the guitar neck. I wish I knew this starting out lol

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