If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out...

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

Dizzynecro said:
Right because 5 minutes is not real. Its not measurable at all is it? I mean how can you say people created time? Time is progression, its a very real thing and it was here before us. Just because something isn't some tangible object doesn't mean its not real. Also just because you can make up some religion doesn't negate other Relegions from being potentially valid. It really bugs me when people state 100% opinions as fact.
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I think you missed the point. 5 minutes is 5 minutes because we say it is. Why isn't 5 minutes, 13 hours? Why are our calenders and china's calanders off by thousands of years... we created the measurable units of "time." A bunch of guys, wayyyyy back in the day, sat around and thought up how we measure the amount of time it takes for the earth to move around the sun.

Now, take that same thought process and apply it to Christianity as we know it. The year is 325 CE, the council of Nicea is taking place, and 200-350 men are in a meeting to decide what Christianity is, what should be in the bible, and whether "God" is omnipotent or if Jesus is the "Son of God." This was supposed to be a worldwide or "ecumenical" meeting to decide all of these things, yet was limited to the Roman Empire, years and years after the same government killed your "saviour."

I don't want to sound like a Dan Brown novel, because i hate that crap, but how can you believe that Christianity and the Bible are the end all, be all, "Word of God?"
 
If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

I don't think anybody putting some thought into it really doubts the holy scriptures of religions were written by humans. This doesn't prove anything about God's (non)existance though and it is not what we are talking about.
 
If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

Psylocide said:
I think you missed the point. 5 minutes is 5 minutes because we say it is. Why isn't 5 minutes, 13 hours? Why are our calenders and china's calanders off by thousands of years... we created the measurable units of "time." A bunch of guys, wayyyyy back in the day, sat around and thought up how we measure the amount of time it takes for the earth to move around the sun.

Now, take that same thought process and apply it to Christianity as we know it. The year is 325 CE, the council of Nicea is taking place, and 200-350 men are in a meeting to decide what Christianity is, what should be in the bible, and whether "God" is omnipotent or if Jesus is the "Son of God." This was supposed to be a worldwide or "ecumenical" meeting to decide all of these things, yet was limited to the Roman Empire, years and years after the same government killed your "saviour."
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It doesn't matter if we named aspects of time, time is progression and it is measurable and real. If there is no time then nothing can happen that is not already happening. If there is no time then there is no past, or future, and all events happen simultaneously. Nothing can begin or end. Time exists.

And I dont care what the Catholics decide, their doctrine is irrelevant to me, not being a Catholic.
 
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