If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out...

[DC97]

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

Who else thinks that there might be even higher beings in all of existence?

Anyone read "The Black Tattoo"? It's a teen book yes, but one of it's main points is making the reader think that God and Satan, or in the book "Godfrey" and "Ebisu Eller-Kong Hacha' Fravashi" are all experiments of other beings. The book basically states that God, creation, universes and everything else is one experiment after the other, after the other. In much simpler terms, the universe we know was created by God, God was created by a higher being who also created other things, and that being was created by another being, etc. etc.

Just food for thought.

 

[iKotomi]

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

Where did the hostility come from?

I never posited that my belief system, specifically that which would define God as "logical", was the only possible way ever that he could exist and that I could not be wrong. Neither did I say that I can prove or disprove God, but merely explained that, in my mind, he would have to be logical in order to be extant to other human beings.

Edit: To clarify further, the above post, which you seem to have vehemently strawmanned into something of a different nature, was no more than speculation. I was not applying proven logic or empirical evidence to my claim, merely musing aloud in a message board. I haven't the slightest idea where you got the idea that I claimed I could prove or disprove God's existence, nor that I thought my statement was ironclad. I'd prefer if you would discontinue projecting ideas on me that I do not claim to hold.

Sorry. At least where I come from, when you present an idea in contradiction to someone else's argument, it is almost always to develop a counter argument. Whatever the case, your post really verified my claim, that your argument doesn't have any real deliberative value. Take it for what you mean, in any real discussion, which this thread clearly isn't, it's a totally useless statement. I wasn't merely complaining that your statement wasn't ironclad, I was complaining that absolutely nothing you said had any logical reason to be believed whatsoever. When that happens, you just start sounding like KingAce who seems like everything he knows in life, he learned from fortune cookies and video game dialogue (Sorry just needed to call this out. You will always forever be in my heart a fake Madnis impersonator).

Don't take it too seriously, I don't believe that it is necessary for things to be logical anyways, I just found it ironic that you had a statement about logic that wasn't logical and responded in a pedantic way (just finished an all-nighter writing an extensive paper on Rousseau).

Actually I think the speed of light is considered a constant and absolute regardless of anything. Even through a medium, the speed of light is constant, even though it appears slower, because it's bouncing around particles (or more precisely, being absorbed and emitted again over and over)

Speed of light is believed to be constant because we have found no evidence to suggest otherwise. Furthermore, we have extensive theory that describes damn well what goes on if we assume light to have a constant speed, at least in pretty much every framework that we can test it in (I'm not exactly a physics major, so I can't say exactly in what way the inconsistency between relativity and quantum mechanics affects this).

These observations allow us to draw a conclusion that the speed of light is very very likely to be constant, and it is very useful to assume that the statement is true, at least for all purposes we can devise. However, we can not actually prove that the speed of light in any framework is always constant is a true statement, because that is not a testable hypothesis.

 

[Felix007]

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

Sorry. At least where I come from, when you present an idea in contradiction to someone else's argument, it is almost always to develop a counter argument. Whatever the case, your post really verified my claim, that your argument doesn't have any real deliberative value. Take it for what you mean, in any real discussion, which this thread clearly isn't, it's a totally useless statement. I wasn't merely complaining that your statement wasn't ironclad, I was complaining that absolutely nothing you said had any logical reason to be believed whatsoever. When that happens, you just start sounding like KingAce who seems like everything he knows in life, he learned from fortune cookies and video game dialogue (Sorry just needed to call this out. You will always forever be in my heart a fake Madnis impersonator).

Don't take it too seriously, I don't believe that it is necessary for things to be logical anyways, I just found it ironic that you had a statement about logic that wasn't logical and responded in a pedantic way (just finished an all-nighter writing an extensive paper on Rousseau).

Then I may have had my message come across in the wrong fashion, without a disclaimer as to why I said what I said. I had no intentions to come off as all knowing, and I thought that would be clear when my message went into no detail to validate my thoughts, which is in contrast to other posts I have made in this thread. It truly was meant to be musing aloud, nothing more.

My apologies if I came off as pedantic or smug after any fashion; it was not my intention.

Who else thinks that there might be even higher beings in all of existence?

Anyone read "The Black Tattoo"? It's a teen book yes, but one of it's main points is making the reader think that God and Satan, or in the book "Godfrey" and "Ebisu Eller-Kong Hacha' Fravashi" are all experiments of other beings. The book basically states that God, creation, universes and everything else is one experiment after the other, after the other. In much simpler terms, the universe we know was created by God, God was created by a higher being who also created other things, and that being was created by another being, etc. etc.

Just food for thought.

While it's certainly an interesting idea, it is by no means new. There has been the concept of (and problems associated with) infinite regression for quite some time.

 

[The-Instigator]

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

I'd buy myself a lifetime supply of sake in order to have weekend drinking competitions :D.


Fix'd ^^

 

[KoshTheKoala]

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

I'd win over Sophitia from Rothion, buy Voldo ten thousand pairs of designer clothes that covers EVERYTHING, and buy Yoshimutsu and myself a lifetime supply of sake in order to have weekend drinking competitions :D.

I'm guessing you didn't read the rest of the thread.