If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out...

If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

I would agree with you on the fact that many scientists have found ways to still believe in God after evolution and other science facts, but have you ever actually watched Richard Dawkins' documentary on evolution? (Yep, that's his name. I just researched it.) The man is, as I've said before, notorious for being a hardcore atheist. If it was a scientist going to a Christian school to talk about evolution, fine. But when you watch the documentary, he's clearly saying that he thinks that religion is for the uneducated. He basically says, "How can you still believe in God when evolution clearly shows that there isn't one?" The funny thing is, in his documentary, he talks about Charles Darwin as if he was a god.

"Charles Darwin wanted to be a preacher. Thankfully, he didn't pursue such a career, because if he did, we would still be unaware of the greatest scientific discovery in mankind's history."

I like a decent amount of criticism in religion, but this guy goes way too far in my book.

As for the words "Under God" that are embedded into our society today, I'll let that subject drop. I'm probably getting way in too far over my head.

"Hardcore atheist"? What do you define as hardcore? He's espousing what he believes, in a civil manner, when he is invited to teach or give a presentation. How is that any different from thousands of televangelists telling people about God on TV, or Bible studies in school, etc etc? He isn't nearly as blunt as saying that evolution means there is no God, his main complaint is with Creationists.

Certainly, science is what likely diminished any possible belief he had for God, because it slowly chips away at the strangle hold the proverbial "God of the Gaps" holds over people today. Don't know where the Universe came from? God did it. Don't know about evolution? No worries, the Bible tells us. Don't understand gravity? Here, can I introduce you to Intelligent Falling? So on and so forth.

Darwin isn't a God, but he didn't put forth the idea of natural selection, which has led evolution to becoming the unifying theory of biology, leading to advances in medicine we would not have otherwise. He holds him in high regard, but certainly not to the point of deifying him.

As for the idea that being religious makes you idiotic, while I don't agree with that blanket statement, it has been shown that the higher your I.Q., the less likely you are to be religious. There are THOUSANDS of intelligent religious people, and he's certainly not making the assumption that if you are religious, you must be an ignoramus.

Marginal said:
The thing about the whole "OMG! Look at creation! That's proof of a creator!" is even if you accept that premise as valid, it says nothing about the nature of the creator. HP Lovecraft has as much chance of being right about the mechanics behind such a creation as a bunch of dead Hebrew folks etc do.

Pretty much. Even if you accept Intelligent Design, which God do you follow? There are thousands out there, you can't pick and choose the popular deity merely because he's popular. It also leads to the problem that, if all this "complexity" required a designer, who designed the designer?
 
If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

At first glance I thought the title was "If I had a $1 for every time God bailed out on me..." and I thought it was gonna be a bashing thread...silly me.

Just so I contribute to the topic a little bit, there's a reading from Psalms that they always read at funerals (too lazy to look it up...google "Psalms funeral reading")-- basically explains there's a time for everything: a time to be joy, a time for suffering, a time for life, a time for death etc. This is mostly in response to KoshTheKoala's post.
 
If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

I'm all for Pastafarianism.

That is all :D


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If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

It was actually pretty good, and The God Delusion is a good read.

(ten minutes of an hour):

Also, Dawkins confronted Ted Haggard in the documentary, which was absolutely hilarious, especially given how Haggard turned out.

Found it:

Great stuff.
 
If I had $1 for every time God bailed me out..

Let me quote my book:
"In backward, unenlightened societies," it said slowly, "it is possible to control people by means of what they believe. This belief system of yours: it's a perfect example. You must understand that beliefs like those you've described are for the weak. They make you easy to control, and they can be comforting too: it's so much simpler to make decisions about how you live your life when all the guidelines are set out in front of you."

This was on the topic about life after death where the main character tells a demon about the whole Heaven/ Hell, Good/ Bad, belief system. What i have quoted is the demon's response to it. Now this doesn't exactly fit into the "God" topic but i'm sure you can bend the meaning to make it fit.

Oh and yes i believe in God, so don't flame me.
 
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