Hate Speech: When Worlds Collide (Revisited)

SinseiPo, please continue trying to sound intelligent. I'm dying over here.

Hey man, welcome. In all seriousness, welcome to the Calibur scene. I'm not sure how experienced you are in the offline tournament scene, but it's pretty clear that you don't have an understanding of the difference between a tournament player and an online player. This has been outlined in the first version of Hate Speech: When Worlds Collide, but I'll make a brief paraphrase.

Most online netcodes have been very bad in the past for 3d fighters, and the obvious limits of online play were pretty much understood by all. Because of this, tournament players do not use online play, at least seriously, if they're looking to improve. This is because it was inconsistent - and tournament play is all about consistency. They use live sessions with their local scene, or travel to tournaments, where they're exposed to a wide array of first class styles and exposure to character play at high level that otherwise wouldn't have been available to them.

Now, things are different. The netcode is playable! This is an amazing thing, but it does not change the fact that online - however amazing that is it, is still inconsistent. Any time you get a ping hiccup or a network error or a dropped match, that's inconsistency. Tournament players recognize that training mode and local sessions are still best to improve one's game. What I'm getting at is: a lot of tourney level players don't play Ranked online. They could only play Player Matches, or even not online much at all!

I'm E5, and I could probably wipe the floor with most A's.

This isn't even part of the big picture, though. Fighting games, in nature, are about beating the opponent. They're about reducing your opponent's lifebar to zero. That's the big obstacle you're looking to overcome. You must do this by any means necessary. Doing this means learning the game. In order to understand the game, you must lose. You must lose - A LOT. This prompts one to say: "Why did I lose?"

Some people ask this question, and some people don't. The people who ask this question are the ones who improve. Those that scream and whine about it, or blame it on the game, or are only playing for Rank, are usually left far behind their curious online counterparts.

Losing teaches you "You're doing something wrong. Fix it."

All serious Calibur players are willing to do what they need to in order to win games. If you encounter a newb, it's your choice whether you want to be kind and let them get a round, or crush them utterly. You're doing yourself a disservice, though, in being kind. Habits like that come back to bite you when tournament time rolls around. In game, you must always be focused, and do your best. There is a clear answer to every problem you encounter in the game. It's your job as a player to find it. If you're not up to snuff, go back to the drawing board and see what you did wrong.

There's no need for this sissy subjective presumptuous bullshit about anyone else's personality, play style, or ethics. Grow some balls and present your argument cleanly, and without weasel words in mind to sway your reader. I don't know who you thought that "women and children" crap would be cute, or help your point, but I will say at the very least: it did not.
 
I crush noobs beneath my mighty thumbs for they are not worthy of the usage of my index finger!!

Where was all these kind hearted people when I was growing up? I needed someone to coddle my ego so I could have turned into the "OMG WHY YOU NO LET ME PUSH BUTTONS TIL YOU DIE" type of people that are so prominent on the Internet.
 
SinseiPo, please continue trying to sound intelligent. I'm dying over here.

Hey man, welcome. In all seriousness, welcome to the Calibur scene. I'm not sure how experienced you are in the offline tournament scene, but it's pretty clear that you don't have an understanding of the difference between a tournament player and an online player. This has been outlined in the first version of Hate Speech: When Worlds Collide, but I'll make a brief paraphrase.

Most online netcodes have been very bad in the past for 3d fighters, and the obvious limits of online play were pretty much understood by all. Because of this, tournament players do not use online play, at least seriously, if they're looking to improve. This is because it was inconsistent - and tournament play is all about consistency. They use live sessions with their local scene, or travel to tournaments, where they're exposed to a wide array of first class styles and exposure to character play at high level that otherwise wouldn't have been available to them.

Now, things are different. The netcode is playable! This is an amazing thing, but it does not change the fact that online - however amazing that is it, is still inconsistent. Any time you get a ping hiccup or a network error or a dropped match, that's inconsistency. Tournament players recognize that training mode and local sessions are still best to improve one's game. What I'm getting at is: a lot of tourney level players don't play Ranked online. They could only play Player Matches, or even not online much at all!

I'm E5, and I could probably wipe the floor with most A's.

This isn't even part of the big picture, though. Fighting games, in nature, are about beating the opponent. They're about reducing your opponent's lifebar to zero. That's the big obstacle you're looking to overcome. You must do this by any means necessary. Doing this means learning the game. In order to understand the game, you must lose. You must lose - A LOT. This prompts one to say: "Why did I lose?"

Some people ask this question, and some people don't. The people who ask this question are the ones who improve. Those that scream and whine about it, or blame it on the game, or are only playing for Rank, are usually left far behind their curious online counterparts.

Losing teaches you "You're doing something wrong. Fix it."

All serious Calibur players are willing to do what they need to in order to win games. If you encounter a newb, it's your choice whether you want to be kind and let them get a round, or crush them utterly. You're doing yourself a disservice, though, in being kind. Habits like that come back to bite you when tournament time rolls around. In game, you must always be focused, and do your best. There is a clear answer to every problem you encounter in the game. It's your job as a player to find it. If you're not up to snuff, go back to the drawing board and see what you did wrong.

There's no need for this sissy subjective presumptuous bullshit about anyone else's personality, play style, or ethics. Grow some balls and present your argument cleanly, and without weasel words in mind to sway your reader. I don't know who you thought that "women and children" crap would be cute, or help your point, but I will say at the very least: it did not.

Nightblade thanks for the welcome. I'm from the Virtua Fighter world, I know online will nver compete with offline. So your words are not wasted. Of course I also know that online rank doesn't tell the story. And if you cats are not into sportsmanship that's okay with me , as long as you let a brutha know. Now I know. Which confirms my theory. Its clear what the etiquette is in place here, its all good. Maybe after we meet live , have a friendly conversation, and match or two, respect will be in order and a few lessons may be learned.

Anyway., Thanks for the welcome., see you cats offline. I do know all of you, but you don't me, I'll introduce myself after we've played. :-)
 
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