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Hate Speech: The Hype Train Derails; Countless Injured...
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Oathkeeper
[08] Mercenary
CheLivz and Thaguy pretty much summed it up in simple terms. I've got a semi-drunken response, to take this how you will.
The Calibuuuuur community desperately need more of theses. Who am I to say that? I'm basically the random guy that hovers between semi-competitive and semi-casual, and the only people I can point to as "personalities" in the community are Hagrid, aka that one fucker that's involved with the overall FGC's latest debacle over sexual harassment (Aris) and a jew that consistently dies to money signs and challenges Thaguy's claim about being The Guy (Floe). Hell, I don't even know if they are real "personalities" that play this game.
Who else we got? AlexJ, the eyebrows of Norcal? What does he know or says about the game other than pick Amy, AA/BB your way to victory while leaving a trail of depressed and bullied gamers that inevitably dropped the game back in SC4?
Hates? This academic just sits there with a thesaurus and rolls his face into the keyboard for the semblance of an interesting read about community issues.
We can easily establish more personalities for the community through streaming, commentary during tournaments/ranbats, article content, etc. Hates is doing a pretty decent job with his weekly articles and we got lots of skilled players streaming that Jaxel isn't allowing to advertise on 8WR through easier means.
-Day9-esque tutorials
We don't really have much media resources to point new players towards. We desperately need more things like replays, match analysis, theorycrafting, etc.
Real quick aside; have anyone ever seen one of these things? Day9 (Starcraft personality) consistently puts out streams of him just talking over the damn game. Match analysis between pro players, game play set-ups, theorycrafting for noobs *and* intermediate players *and* aspiring pro/tournament level players, etc.
He churns out these videos daily the last I checked about six months ago, and has a ridiculous fan base to help support whatever the hell he's doing. And when he's not doing shit like this, he's commentating at some next level major in fucking Sweden or for MLG or whatever.
I know several local guys that happen to have streaming capabilities at home. I ask that whenever they actually do stream or have casuals with friends, take a moment to explain your thought process while playing or have some minor analysis between matches.
The Calibuuuuur community desperately need more of theses. Who am I to say that? I'm basically the random guy that hovers between semi-competitive and semi-casual, and the only people I can point to as "personalities" in the community are Hagrid, aka that one fucker that's involved with the overall FGC's latest debacle over sexual harassment (Aris) and a jew that consistently dies to money signs and challenges Thaguy's claim about being The Guy (Floe). Hell, I don't even know if they are real "personalities" that play this game.
Who else we got? AlexJ, the eyebrows of Norcal? What does he know or says about the game other than pick Amy, AA/BB your way to victory while leaving a trail of depressed and bullied gamers that inevitably dropped the game back in SC4?
Hates? This academic just sits there with a thesaurus and rolls his face into the keyboard for the semblance of an interesting read about community issues.
We can easily establish more personalities for the community through streaming, commentary during tournaments/ranbats, article content, etc. Hates is doing a pretty decent job with his weekly articles and we got lots of skilled players streaming that Jaxel isn't allowing to advertise on 8WR through easier means.
-Day9-esque tutorials
We don't really have much media resources to point new players towards. We desperately need more things like replays, match analysis, theorycrafting, etc.
Real quick aside; have anyone ever seen one of these things? Day9 (Starcraft personality) consistently puts out streams of him just talking over the damn game. Match analysis between pro players, game play set-ups, theorycrafting for noobs *and* intermediate players *and* aspiring pro/tournament level players, etc.
He churns out these videos daily the last I checked about six months ago, and has a ridiculous fan base to help support whatever the hell he's doing. And when he's not doing shit like this, he's commentating at some next level major in fucking Sweden or for MLG or whatever.
I know several local guys that happen to have streaming capabilities at home. I ask that whenever they actually do stream or have casuals with friends, take a moment to explain your thought process while playing or have some minor analysis between matches.
Oathkeeper
[08] Mercenary
SPEAKING OF PERSONALITIES
Did anyone know that Maximillian (of MvC3 fame) is doing one of those "Online Warrior!" series for SCV? He's up to the 10th episode so far and I think it's actually a decent place to point randoms to.
Did anyone know that Maximillian (of MvC3 fame) is doing one of those "Online Warrior!" series for SCV? He's up to the 10th episode so far and I think it's actually a decent place to point randoms to.
taffertier
[10] Knight
His online warrior series is what makes me want to try and do something similar. And since his commentary is usual just funny stuff unrelated to the actual characters or mechanics i think a series that incorporates some insightful commentary would help the game. It's certainly a good thing to recommend it to people just for entertainment but the comments are really the only place where you will get some feedback on how to use characters or the game in general.
Maybe if i run into max in another event i can help with the series or he can help me start up my own. All it really requires to get started is money for the equipment. Capture cards, mics, editing software, etc. Some consistent gameplay videos and tutorials would help for the newer people in the series and fighting games in general.
KingAce
HERMITISM
As far as the views for the world tournament. Yup bascialy it wasn't well advertised.
As far as hype goes...forced hype is unnecessary. I have said this before, but SCV moves too fast for analytical commentary. While most 2d games have those long combo cushions for commentary to catch up, they're is always something important going on during a high level SC fight.
IMO marvel is like the the Michael Bay movie of fgs. The game runs on nothing but comeback mechanics, so the hype is always constant. However, I don't really make a point to watch it because the game doesn't tickle my brain at all.
Personally I enjoy watching starcraft. I can watch it without commentary, because I know enough about the game to understand tactical decisions.
Something that extends to tekken and SC. I have spectated SC for as long as I was aware of its competitive scene in SC2. A hype moment explains it's self, if a match is sub par then it's sub par. You can talk about how sub par it is but you can't really hype it up, maybe make fun of how bad people are. I enjoy watching high level matches because my mind analyzes them for me. So as far as commentary goes, I think just being honest works fine. If a commentator is hype for no reason, the spectators can easily pick up on it.
Commentary really just enhances FGs, Ultra David and James Chen do well to explain SSF4 and Marvel, but I still don't have a clue what they're talking about. I just get the gist of what's going on and the comeback mechanics kick in and everyone screams. You don't see a lot of amazing moments like daigo's full parry anymore, the hype is a fabrication. I don't even watch a lot of SSF4 outside of Japan, because I don't consider it high level play. I enjoy watching high level decisions and really only the best can bring that out.
So for me personally the best commentary for fighting games is the type that entertains the spectator. It helps if you're funny.
Filthierich is great.
As far as hype goes...forced hype is unnecessary. I have said this before, but SCV moves too fast for analytical commentary. While most 2d games have those long combo cushions for commentary to catch up, they're is always something important going on during a high level SC fight.
IMO marvel is like the the Michael Bay movie of fgs. The game runs on nothing but comeback mechanics, so the hype is always constant. However, I don't really make a point to watch it because the game doesn't tickle my brain at all.
Personally I enjoy watching starcraft. I can watch it without commentary, because I know enough about the game to understand tactical decisions.
Something that extends to tekken and SC. I have spectated SC for as long as I was aware of its competitive scene in SC2. A hype moment explains it's self, if a match is sub par then it's sub par. You can talk about how sub par it is but you can't really hype it up, maybe make fun of how bad people are. I enjoy watching high level matches because my mind analyzes them for me. So as far as commentary goes, I think just being honest works fine. If a commentator is hype for no reason, the spectators can easily pick up on it.
Commentary really just enhances FGs, Ultra David and James Chen do well to explain SSF4 and Marvel, but I still don't have a clue what they're talking about. I just get the gist of what's going on and the comeback mechanics kick in and everyone screams. You don't see a lot of amazing moments like daigo's full parry anymore, the hype is a fabrication. I don't even watch a lot of SSF4 outside of Japan, because I don't consider it high level play. I enjoy watching high level decisions and really only the best can bring that out.
So for me personally the best commentary for fighting games is the type that entertains the spectator. It helps if you're funny.
Filthierich is great.