Hate Speech: Sharing is Caring (For Yourself)

Heaton said:
This is really odd. I was wondering what was up, since the only people that ever punished it at DEV were lolo and Omega, and they didn't (or couldn't) punish it all that hard - lolo used Yoshi's 6K, and Omega used Zas's bK or BB4. Honestly, I just thought that people were trying to do either SC damage or set up mix-ups or something. Even weirder is that I never got TAS B'd for it against any Sophie users, and I played all of them that were at DEV...I think Vincent may have AS B'd me once, though.

So not only did I take Signia's money partly because of a gimmick, but if I had gotten into the right pools I could have potentially made at least Top 8 at DEV solely on the manliest gimmick in the game!

Probably not...

This is a good topic, though, and while at this point, it's a bit too late to let people know about gimmicks in SCIV, I know for a fact that one of the topics that most SCV Soul Arenas will have is going to be "_____'s Gimmicks (and how to beat them)".
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6K is by far the best punisher for a -16 move that Yoshi has. 6K2K is like 50 damage and knockdown, i15. 6K is basically his standard punisher. What else would he use? His launchers are all at least i17 as far as I know. I don't know that that many characters can really punish a -16 move that badly.

Also, I'm not a Soph player but my understanding is that its really really hard to consistently TAS B moves that are -16. At least, I seem to remember reading somewhere that even very good Soph players will usually go for TAS B on -17 at the minimum. AS B is very easy to get though.

I play Voldo who in theory has one of the best punishers for -16 moves, 66:B. But in practice I find that unless the 1B is overused and I anticipate it and I'm really on the edge of my seat ready to punish, the blockstun on it is fairly short and I can't get 66:B consistently. I'm sure other Voldo players can get this consistently though.

I suspect there are probably worse moves than Sieg's 1B that consistently go unpunished.
 
Nirf said:
Also, I'm not a Soph player but my understanding is that its really really hard to consistently TAS B moves that are -16. At least, I seem to remember reading somewhere that even very good Soph players will usually go for TAS B on -17 at the minimum. AS B is very easy to get though.
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Psssh! Try telling Ramon that! Lol!
 
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