Game of Thrones Discussion Thread (Books and Show)

Alexandra

Alexandra

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I didn't see a thread for this so I thought it would be neat to have one. I personally LOVE Game of Thrones and I'm currently reading the 5th book, A Dance with Dragons. Here are a few of my favorite things about the show and books. Spoilers are accepted.

Favorite Character -- Arya Stark, Queen Cersei Lannister, Tyrion Lannister, Catelyn Stark, and my number 1 favorite is Daenerys Stormborn of House Targaryen, Mother of Dragons, Khalaessi of the Great Grass Sea, Queen of Meereen, Ruler of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, and Protector of the Realm.

Favorite Book -- Storm of Swords (Book 3)

Favorite Episode -- "Winter is Coming"

In the show, the actors who portrayed their characters the best were...
Maisie Williams: Arya Stark
Peter Dinklage: Tyrion Lannister
Emilia Clarke: Daenerys Targaryen
Sean Bean: Eddard Stark
Nikolaj Coster-Waldau: Jaime Lannister
Lena Headey: Cersei Lannister
Michelle Fairley: Catelyn Stark
 
Im a fan of the Books and a fan of the show as well. I thought the acting was kept to a high standard overall and I agree with your ranking, though I think the kid who played Bran did an excellent job too. Sir Jory also was very convincing with his difficult part. I think his Neutral, but influenced persona would be a challenge to act well. Im REALLY looking forward to season two. I absolutely love the show.

Some of the details shifted a bit, such as Sir Loras and Renly's more or less Openly gay relationship. Possible in the Book, Blatant in the show. Im sure its welcome though and probably helped the ratings. I hope that this terrific example of Fantasy book turned HBO series is only the first of many. Its time film turned to real writers for their stories. So sick of the same old re-hashed cop/hospital dramas.
 
first. parn. Record of Lodoss War. Brilliant anime. hats off to you sir.

second. Game of thrones.

I'm a fan of the books and series. but I won't lie, it was the tv show I watched first and then the books, because I couldn't wait to see what happens next.
I really enjoyed how they fleshed out this world. the subtle details in how they cast their characters.

(an example being how Northerner extras were forbidden to get tans.) how different parts of the world used different accents to add to the culture of each area. Not to mention the sheer amount of content in each episode! I've rewatched the first season a number of times and each time, came away with something new that I hadn't caught before. There aren't many wasted shots and each drive home meaning.

I love the symmetry. the first episode, we see the dead bodies arranged in a specific order to create a symbol. that same symbol we see at the end as Daenerys walks into the pyre. I mean this show is brilliant in its storytelling on its own, but after reading the first book and rewatching the show, knowing the break downs of what took place where in the book and where it differed in the show but seeing it still work was great.

having said that..

BAM!


I. CAN. NOT. WAIT!
 
What I really think is a burning topic in my mind is the Coldhands theory.

I personally believe he's Benjen Stark or possibly Brynden "Bloodraven" Rivers (also known as the Great Targaryen Bastard). A problem I have noticed with this theory is that the three-eyed crow is most probably Bloodraven as one of the last children of the forest states that Coldhands was killed long ago, and for children of the forest, three years (since Benjen Stark's disappearance and the reappearance of the Others and Dragons) is not a very long time.

Another theory I have is that Jon Snow's mother may be Lyanna Stark and Rhaegar Targaryen's child as in Ned's dream of the day of her death in book one, Ned describes blood being mopped by her sheets around the abdomen. It would also explain her being bedridden.

An additional thought on this is that Jon may be a product of incest between Lyanna and Ned.
Some evidence includes...
  • His overwhelming resemblance to his father (from the books' description)
  • Most Targaryen children, even bastards, have a Targaryen look to them in at least one aspect (purple eyes, silver hair, etc.)
  • His traditional Stark looks, and only those appear.
There is one thing I find as an arguement to this:

When Arya is travelling with the Brotherhood Without Banners in Storm of Swords, she meets a boy named Ned who reveals that Jon and himself were milk brothers. Wylla was the woman's name he spoke. This is the same thing Ned told Robert.

Now, for the Prince that was Promised:
  1. Daenerys Targaryen
  • Why? Because Dany was born from smoke and salt (Dragonstone) during a violent storm. She woke dragons from stone. Maester Aemon believes this as well and he is a knowledgeable and wise old man.
2. Jon Snow
  • When Bowen Marsh stabs him, his wounds smoke. Also, Melisandre can only see him in her visions. Another piece of vital information is that Jon sees himself, albeit older in a dream fighting a group of Others with an enchanted sword

Lastly, I have a theory on Daenerys' now increasingly skeptical plan to march on Westeros
I think that after she somehow returns to Meereen to find the city preparing for war or already fighting, she will want to stay and may never even leave the continent of Essos

Another thing I think may happen is Daenerys not even escaping Khal Jaqo and her largest and most powerful dragon killed. Then she will either be killed with her favorite "child" or be brought to the Dosh Khaleen in Vaes Dothrak.

Lastly, she may end up having an epiphany in the Dothraki Sea and decides to leave Meereen and join her nephew in Westeros so they can marry and conquer Westeros like their forebear, Aegon I. But, theres also the fact that Daenerys or Aegon would need to defend the world from the Others with Daenerys's own "magical sword", her dragons.
 
Lodoss Indeed. Thanks for noticing. I wonder how many, or how few, realize that the same talented character designer was responsible for Sheherazade.

I have a feeling that Daenerys wont die. I think a significant marriage will ligitimize her in the eyes of Westeros, but I cant guess the man for the job. It might be cool if she gave Sir Jory another chance.

Jon's hand is black. It always makes me think of a similarity to the "Ranger" Bran meets with the cold hands. I dont really know what the "Others" might be but I wonder if Jon is more like Infected than just wounded by it.

It seems that Bran has the strongest bond with his Wolf and to all of nature aparently. Jon does have dreams though where he percieves his wolf's experiences. It's almost like the Starks who leave the North lose the bond.

If each bloodline has a particular bond. Stark wolves, Tararyen dragons.. Lannister money? Baratheon? Tully? Might these houses begin to exhibit signs? I like how the feeling in the series is like dormant magic awakening.

Lastly, I think Catelyn is a Zombie and the Mountain that rides is some even worse abomination that noone seems to get curious about. Looking forward to some details there.
 
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