Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate

MightyOmega said:
I just got Vanilla, what's different in Ultimate?
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you got vanilla instead of ultimate? The difference is pretty big. i can't even imagine playing on vanilla anymore. and i haven't paid a dime to play online either. trust me. you won't get better facing computer controlled characters.
Project_ASX said:
Who's ready for the 1.04 patch?
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i'm not. after seeing the unnecessary nerfs to kokoro and momoji i'm iffy about the whole thing. i feel like i'm in my SCV days all over again with leixia and her wonky nerfs. i just don't understand the mindset behind these changes. nerf mid/low tier characters but buff top tier characters like Sarah and Ayane and leave Gen Fu alone with his godlike gameplay style that is equivalent in skill to a someone rolling their facing over a keyboard.
 
I'm okay with the Momiji adjustments. Her sweeping kick has outrageously long range that definitely needed to be looked into and making Tenku P a guard break feels like a nice buff. And honestly, people need to realize that 1PP is not a mix-up or a poke, but something to use to punish highs mid string and for counter hits. The move needs more risk.
 
Windstar said:
I'm okay with the Momiji adjustments. Her sweeping kick has outrageously long range that definitely needed to be looked into and making Tenku P a guard break feels like a nice buff. And honestly, people need to realize that 1PP is not a mix-up or a poke, but something to use to punish highs mid string and for counter hits. The move needs more risk.
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i know about the kick. i'm just saying that why put much time into putting balancing characters (mostly for the worst) that are in need of getting better (i.e. Eliot and Kokoro). this is supposed to be a "balance" patch. but i have not seen any balancing within these patches. all the virtua characters have been buffed in damage and safety on guard, obvious to make a larger VF audience to play DOA? apparently Kokoro is damn scary in Japan. enough scary to have yet another guaranteed option of hers away. they gave her a guaranteed off of her 3 frame sabaki now but the damage that can be done after that are laughable. and they nerfed her best tool. her 3 part throw. it does less damage now. Eliot only got damage buffs but the problem was his kit. not his damage. it just seems team ninja just kinda tossed him aside. but characters that get a lot of attention or are already good either remain untouched or get buffed. this game's tier list line is just becoming more apparent. which is bad. but now it seems like this will be yet another tier whorish game at this rate.
 
People are praising Ein's buffs when it's the same issue as Eliot. More damage is nice, but all Ein's good for is knocking the enemy away before they get too close. The tools he does need aren't coming, so he's really no better.

Momiji, though... I don't see too much of a change from the numbers. I'll have to put her in the lab for a bit.
 
I have a couple questions for Lei Fang:

1. What exactly is her fighting style?
2. Does she have a steep learning curve?
3. Are there any good Lei Fang players I can reference?
 
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