Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate
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Amanda
[12] Conqueror
It happens...but nobody talks about it ....ehm like Fight Club or 4Chan...nuff said.
Dont wanna go into some details...not in public...
KaiBro
[10] Knight
And definitely not into detail about 4Chan.
For Fight Club, the first rule about Fight Club is to not talk about it.
Xernuht
[10] Knight
Yes, BUT they are typically using the organizer's resources to do this, especially on live streams. It's not the cheapest or easiest thing to set up. A lot of the tournament itself comes out of the organizer's pocket.
Viewers came for an asskicking GF, they get a casual match. Natural offense, but they didn't pay for the event.
Other competitors want to see the top 2 go at it just they might have themselves, and get a casual match? Again, natural offense, except they paid to attend a tournament, not a casual, and their money is now going to them.
The organizer takes time out of their life to plan the tournament, devoting their time and resources to make the whole thing happen, maybe even putting their own money into the pot, and supervise it all just to see the last two guys dicking around, wasting his bandwidth, energy, and overall effort on a casual final? Lord have mercy upon their souls. They actually have a right to be pissed.
Viewers came for an asskicking GF, they get a casual match. Natural offense, but they didn't pay for the event.
Other competitors want to see the top 2 go at it just they might have themselves, and get a casual match? Again, natural offense, except they paid to attend a tournament, not a casual, and their money is now going to them.
The organizer takes time out of their life to plan the tournament, devoting their time and resources to make the whole thing happen, maybe even putting their own money into the pot, and supervise it all just to see the last two guys dicking around, wasting his bandwidth, energy, and overall effort on a casual final? Lord have mercy upon their souls. They actually have a right to be pissed.
LP
Premium Member
TOs charge a venue fee most of the time to cover fees (nevermind the fact that most big events take on volunteers, get sponsors, and TOs actually MAKE money off of these events). If they lose out, it's the cost of doing business. Like it or not, the players have no obligation to play. If I join a tournament, get to top 8, then decide I'd rather go to Chili's or some shit instead of playing, I can't and shouldn't be reprimanded. The players are paying to participate--not to win, not to try their best, and definitely not to entertain some people who aren't paying. A stream has nothing to do with the players (and that's what most people seem to forget; there are many instances where natches don't go down or people mess around but they aren't looked so badly upon because the 'viewers' are satisfied). Like I said, it'd be different if the players were being paid to play and the money wasn't coming out of their pockets.
Like I said, if you want competitors 'playing their absolute best', there's a lot more rules that need to be made and more than most people are willing to PAY to do.
I will also state, once again, while I am indifferent towards 'collusion' (it seems to be a blanket word for a bunch of things right now), regardless of whether or not players split the pot, I do think they should put on a good show. Now, whether or not them picking a character their 'known' for constitutes a good show is another thing (and, there, you have, even MORE rules that would have to be spelled out. If a player picks another character, as was the case of the two brothers in question, does that constitute them not trying their 'hardest' and thus 'collusion'?). I routinely play different characters in SC tournaments and may win or lose and really don't care either way--should I be punished for that?
With that same, we're taking up a bunch of space and should move this discussion elsewhere.
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