Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate

Helena is very evasive. I'd recommend kokoro or sarah since either could probably take care of helena's pretty poor sit-down stuns.


 
Tell me who is a good partner up for Kokoro and I shall learn sometime. Still don't have DOA5 due to personal problems, but still eager to play it.

In Dead or Alive 4, officially, Hitomi was her only partner, despite no special intro or winning pose. They did have a unique throw which is retained in Dead or Alive 5. In DOA5, her official partners are Helena and Akira where she has unique intros and winning pose, plus unique throws with both of them. She also has a unique throw with Brad. Overall, she has the fewest unique relationships with the cast.

As far as Tag Partner viability, that's hard to say. Neither Helena or Hitomi have good sit-down stun setups, and Kokoro's own are somewhat limited (most are just simple launcher guarantees) that could really be exploited by either of them. Akira arguably might be her best, since he can get a free 66P+KTH set up, or go for a nasty 3H+KP2 or just finish the opponent with 246P or 26PP. Plus, they have the strongest tag throw.

Only issue with that is the different mind sets required to play Kokoro and Akira. Its literally the hardest team to play since they have very different execution requirements and have a fairly linear and strong mid game (makes them easy to hold).

You might want to try Hayate or Lisa. Lisa has a unique throw with Kokoro (only from Lisa's end, IIRC), but could work well with speedy launchers like 33P or 33K. 1PP allows for safe tagging. While Hayate has a few easy punishes and guard breaks that allow for some interesting mix ups (1K tag 8P tag 3K tag 7P critical burst).
 
ew. what's all this talk about tag? It's like talking about weed and other illegal drugs at and children's school.

tag is bad and leads to nothing but bad habits.
Maybe some other changes they added to Pai buffed her up a bit. Like how Helena was before people knew about her PFTs. I hope you find some new BnBs for Pai. :)
nope. nothing new. she only got minor damage buffs. that combo being gone hit way too hard. i couldn't find anything to replace it at all. T_T
i don't think i can even play her anymore now. and her wave dashing is gone. i'm actually heavily considering dropping her despite my love for Pai Chan. it's like Leixia all over again. they unnecessarily nerf these lower end characters more and more. it's like TN doesn't want anyone to play as these characters.
 
How many of you have actually fooled around with the tag mode. It's amazingly deep and i think can have the same amount of hype as Marvel if enough people start playing it. A lot of unlinkable sitdown stuns are now more able to be linked due to the fact that tagging in the character removes the recovery frames. You can practically go sitdown > sitdown > CB! > Launcher > Relaunch Juggle > Tag! > Relaunch Juggle > Tag! > Relaunch Juggle > Tag! > Juggle Ender.

Here's a video showcasing DOA3 tag:

That video (which I've seen before) reminded me of all the male costumes we've been deprived of; Hayabusa's informal ninja outfits, Leon's roman gladiator, Ein's Matrix outfit, Jann Lee's dragon pants and yellow gi, Bass's red Hawaiian shirt, Brad's kempo outfit, Ein's prisoner outfit, and Bass' Mad Max/Viking outfit.

Not to mention Ayane's old ninja outfit, Hitomi's denim jacket, and a few of Tina's old outfits.

Maybe they'll come out down the line.
 
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