Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate

Windstar said:
In VF5, there's usually a way around that (doing a more damaging attack), but more importantly, 2Ps are actual lows in DOA5.
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that's the point. they are used to shut down offensive pressure. but there is an easy way around them. at least for Pai, she's zero on hit. so that means she's negative on block and can easily be punished. so it's a balanced move. (at least for Pai, but she's low tier anyway so that's not really a good thing for her.)
 
0VincentRayne0 said:
that's the point. they are used to shut down offensive pressure. but there is an easy way around them. at least for Pai, she's zero on hit. so that means she's negative on block and can easily be punished. so it's a balanced move. (at least for Pai, but she's low tier anyway so that's not really a good thing for her.)
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Yeah. I'm more annoyed at the repeated spam that players keep doing. I'll sit there watching them pop five 2Ps in a row and just feel annoyed that someone that's going to do something when I'm just waiting for them to finish. They piss me off enough I'll just low counter it (and I've gotten pretty good at Hi-Counter Holds).

Still, most of my matches boil down to the opponent running off strings, I'll counter/punish with 2H+KK, they eat the counter hit, go into trip stun, I 7K and launch them into the air and do an easy combo. Repeat this for about 7 or 8 times. Thinking that they've learned not to try and attack while in trip, I'll mix up a throw attempt, only to eat a counter hit string. I shrug it off, and we continue this silly game for 8 to 10 matches.

Eventually, with some players they'll start going into this ultra turtly "I'm-going-to-counter-everything-you-do" crap, which starts to annoy me, since they aren't really predicting and just randomly guessing. I punish all the stupid whiffing, and they still end up doing it. So occasionally I'll throw the match and give them something obvious they can counter and feel good about themselves. Then I'll just murder them in the next few rounds.

I've done periods where I do nothing but 2H+KK for entire rounds and matches and they eat counter hits for the entire match. I've done this before in Soul Calibur 5 too, and it just annoys and pisses me off where I'm hoping that the players actually learn not to do stupid things, but somehow, whether it be stubbornness or unfortunate brain damage, they don't learn. Its one thing to get punished for experimenting on certain setups, strategies or attacks, but here, they're not experimenting. They're just doing stupid things. After all's said and done... I occasionally get a message asking to be my friend. And rarely, get a compliment about my skills. Not once have I gotten hate mail yet.

Nowadays, I'm just taking it in stride and good humor. I'm not really trying to be ultra-competitive (at least, not in this game). So I'm having fun. Still, its annoying having to fight players that aren't very good or aren't learning. I'm not sure whether I should crush them, or go easy. If I'm too tough, they'll likely leave and I'll feel pretty unsatisfied and few number of games I've played so far. Honestly, I'm not really even that good and have even picked up some bad habits for solely trying to just counter their play. I'll run off gimmicks with other characters I have no idea how to play (Bass 1PP > ground throw pick up > 1PP > ad infinitum) and they'll just eat it. Though I've never actually spammed Jann Lee's Dragon Kick (though I did meet one player who did... unfortunate soul who continued to eat Lee's CH 1PP punishes afterwards.)

Still I'm having fun. I've got about 26 more titles to go and a 61% win rating now. Its a slog to get Alpha... I'm kinda curious to learn her and try her out online in a non-cheesy way.
 
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