Consciousness Discussion

[Alex.J]

You want to call people liars? Fair enough that's your business. Clearly this is all very subjective but the way I see it you're directing this whole discourse as much as him by focusing on the part of his discussion you already decided you weren't going to listen to anyway. I really don't know why he's playing along but that's his business. Don't pull me into it again.

Can he prove what he says is true? No? He clearly sounds like the false witness to me. Also, I've listened to him more than anyone in this entire thread. All my arguments are based on very specific parts of dialogue he has written. Listening and believing are two complete different things. Have I listened to him? Yes. Do I believe anything he's said? No. Huge difference, how about you give it a try and listen to what I have to say.

P.S. I also disagree with the equal contribution to drama part. If he never created this thread, there would be no arguing in this thread. If I never responded to this thread, there would still be arguing. It's very simple and obvious he has contributed more to the drama.

 

[Marginal]

That, and if Chaos had simply ignored or just respected dissenting opinions rather than responding to each hyper defensively, there wouldn't be much of a discussion going on now.

 

[shitsumon]

Lord help me, I am weak

I don't argue, I just observe confused thinking and try to point it out

Quite the minds voice in your head.

I don't care, you can't disprove anything to me.

One last time, I don't care about the arguments you make that not even you have tried to understand. I'm only trying to help you.

Anything you say with a argumentative mind set that's solely aimed at countering what others say is irrelevant

This is creme de la creme.
The whole confusion in this thread comes from the fact that everyone sees it, quite reasonably, as a discussion forum. Chaos sees it as a discussion-less support group where he is the mentor and all the others are confused and stupid sheep that should follow him. You cannot disagree with him, because if You do thats clearly because Youre not enlightened enough. If Chaos has no interest in others' arguments, and refuses to believe evidence 'from this world', or refuses to provide evidence for his statements, then we cannot help him. even though the fact that he hears voices in his head means that he needs all the help he can get

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If the above does not help Chaos understand, lets switch gears a little.
I feel Your confusion Chaos, your astral skills are still at a very low level. This is concluded by me, my hypothalamus and hippocampus told me that. All the participants in this thread except You are able to communicate telepathically with each other and we reached true enlightment. You cant disprove that to us. We observe Your attempts to preach to others and we see your lack of understanding. And You cant really argue with it, because we are not interested in arguing, only pointing out confused thinking. Youre confused.

 

[CaptainHook]

TLDR version: Materialism wins

 

[Chaos1x]

My bad i may have used the wrong words to convey what i meant, You all definitely understand something, everything you've all said comes from your current understanding. The understanding behind your words can be traced back to how you interpreted things you've come into contact with in the past. I don't mean to diminish the conclusions you have all made, but realize that as you grow you have to reevaluate what you've come to know. As you expand your perspective you will become able to make new decisions from a place of greater wisdom.

As you start exploring what it is to understand from a honest place, you will begin to see how much deeper you can go into any issue. Theres no such thing as something you cant understand. Thats our greatest power as humans, we can guide the beam of our understanding on anything we want.

Ok lets move on from the nothing thats happening now.

Lets discus what you can do while not moving the body with your eyes closed.

Anyone have any experience with guiding your awareness to inspect any part of the body?

I love the feeling of being able to feel a part of my body i previously couldn't. I now truly know just how much i was ignoring my self in the past. LoL its like "what the hell how did i never look at you before" Anyway anyone else have something?