Consciousness Discussion

[Chaos1x]

Guys let's try not to think we know things we haven't understood. And let's remember that everyone's point of view can be understood, the only real enemy is ignorance and false knowledge. But we all have the potential to expand our perspective and increase our experiences.

Alex seems like he looks for anything he doesn't fully agree with with in others messages and focuses on that never trying to understand deeper layers. We all have done that to some degree.

It's not about proving what you believe is right it's about all of us understanding it together and clearing up any confusions along the way.

Let's begin to clear up the doubts we have and not defend them.

And to all those who seems to think leaving your body is made up. That's only a product of thinking your lack of experience means there's no further possibility. Haven't we all experienced out of body adventures? What do you think dreams are? humanity still doesn't understand dreams or sleep. astral projection is just retaining your full awareness while going inside "the dream world". If you've ever lucid dreamed before you know the power you hold once you understand the out of body Environment. You release yourself of all limitations.

In the non physical world what you have in your mind is projected on to reality. Exploring and working with your "will" or "intention" in the out of body realm is astounding phenomenal and any other synonym. Don't miss out. We all have to evolve learn and help each other. Limiting mind sets are of no use. Let's throw away the confusions of our society, human potential is far greater then what we see around us.

Don't dismiss anything without understanding it, start exploring your body mind and awareness and enhance them all.

The fun has just began. there's a whole universe of possibility.

 

[Onyyx]

Okay real talk you're starting to sound like the creepy cult people that tried to induct one of my friends a few years back

 

[Alex.J]

the only real enemy is ignorance and false knowledge

Exactly, what proof of astral projection existing is there? Wait, it's all personal experience and can't be quantified or proven?

There has been extensive research on dreams. REM sleep, brain activity, and tons of evidence. Although we can't completely prove it's purpose. We can easily prove it exists. Most research indicates that dreams have a giant impact on mental health. People who can't reach REM and can't dream, are often subject to tons of mental disorders. As for Astral Projection, its utter nonsense. The dream world isn't an out of body experience. It's your brain managing itself. Everything that happens in a dream is connected to your brain. Nothing leaves the body, it's all self contained. No valid research proves otherwise. So who is spreading the enemy of false knowledge and ignorance? It's you.

P.S. Believing you had an out of body experience isn't proof.

 

[Chaos1x]

It's an experience you need to have, all your telling me is I don't know how to do it and have no intension of trying until the physical world can can physically demonstrate non physical activity. So assume it's proven 200 years from now, a relatively short amount of time in human evolution and you die having allowed your mind to limit you your entire life.

The extensive research on sleep is only a stepping stone in increasing our understanding of it. All we know is we need it and not properly doing it has negative repercussions. If there was no research would you consider dreams false and "made up"? I bet you wouldn't as soon as you had one yourself.

Truth is we don't know what we are, we haven't understood how or why our consciousness can experience different realities. How does an animal evolve? What does he do internally that manifests as a physical change. It seems he changes as he understands what he needs and wants to do.

We take our inner processes for granted and ignore the teachings they hold, being able to quite the mind and shine your presence / awareneness / consciousness / concentrated uninterrupted focus on a single layer of your reality expands your perspective and furthers your growth.

Paying to much attention to thoughts and opinions your body instantly gives you clouds your understanding process.

The countless people who say they have left their body aren't all in on one big lie, they really do experience those things, while you contemplate the falseness and unimportance of their experience they're enjoying they're infinite superpowers in a reality free from limitations.

Alex you only hurt yourself every time you belittle the potential of others and as a result yourself. No one is being affected and limited by your believes more then you. But it's all about you, you can shake off all the confusion you've gathered and start understanding everything yourself when ever you want. Stop thinking and start understanding.

It's simple, the more you understand the more you grow. And that impacts all aspects of your reality.

A cult most likely tells you to believe in something you haven't fully understood. I want you to understand everything.

 

[Alex.J]

It's an experience you need to have, all your telling me is I don't know how to do it and have no intension of trying until the physical world can can physically demonstrate non physical activity. So assume it's proven 200 years from now, a relatively short amount of time in human evolution and you die having allowed your mind to limit you your entire life.

The extensive research on sleep is only a stepping stone in increasing our understanding of it. All we know is we need it and not properly doing it has negative repercussions. If there was no research would you consider dreams false and "made up"? I bet you wouldn't as soon as you had one yourself.

Truth is we don't know what we are, we haven't understood how or why our consciousness can experience different realities. How does an animal evolve? What does he do internally that manifests as a physical change. It seems he changes as he understands what he needs and wants to do.

We take our inner processes for granted and ignore the teachings they hold, being able to quite the mind and shine your presence / awareneness / consciousness / concentrated uninterrupted focus on a single layer of your reality expands your perspective and furthers your growth.

Paying to much attention to thoughts and opinions your body instantly gives you clouds your understanding process.

The countless people who say they have left their body aren't all in on one big lie, they really do experience those things, while you contemplate the falseness and unimportance of their experience they're enjoying they're infinite superpowers in a reality free from limitations.

Alex you only hurt yourself every time you belittle the potential of others and as a result yourself. No one is being affected and limited by your believes more then you. But it's all about you, you can shake off all the confusion you've gathered and start understanding everything yourself when ever you want. Stop thinking and start understanding.

It's simple, the more you understand the more you grow. And that impacts all aspects of your reality.

A cult most likely tells you to believe in something you haven't fully understood. I want you to understand everything.

In 200 years if they prove something like that is possible. Good for them, I'm quite content with my life. There is no real big missing out imo. Unless your argument is that people can't be happy without Astral Projection. Now lets look at the issue the other way. You claim to have had some amazing Astral Projection experience. You are preaching to people about it to people who really don't care that much. There is no evidence it exists. You spend your whole life fighting this battle just to find out it doesn't exist? If you are proven wrong, don't you look like quite the psychopath?

If I had to choose being blissfully ignorant or ignorantly insane. I'm going to pick the first option. UFO's could exist, ghost could exist, and other unexplained phenomena. But until we have any real proof, people are literally chasing shadows. I've seen people cry over ghosts and UFOs, shits not worth it. So I actually think it's the opposite. You are only hurting yourself by following this pipe dream. You don't seem spiritually or mentally awakened, you seem quite defensive and agitated. Is this the growth you speak of?