Consciousness Discussion

[Marginal]

Ask yourself's why you are so audacious to think that brain couldn't possibly create consciousness all on it's own? Have you gazed upon the spectacle, the endless abyss of neurons, the beauty of it's vastness?
[/MEDIA]

That's a completely different issue. Clearly that's possible. Just look at Enkindu jumping at shadows lately.

 

[Chaos1x]

I thought this was about expansion and understanding. But you tell Franman he's wasting his time? So far Franman has posted the most thoughtful thing in here.

As for saying I have a boxed mindest. You have me all wrong and that was a very close minded thing for you to say. We learn new things about the human brain all the time. Technology expands at a phenomenal rate. True understanding comes from measurements and calculations. Also logic and reason. When something comes along where there isn't enough technology or proof, a theory comes in place. A logical reasoning on why something works the way it does. Once proven, it becomes fact. Something like Quantum Physics is extremely vast and outside the box. And a lot of modern advancements have come from this.

But any lack of form or structure, there will be whack jobs and bullshit that will appear. The fact you believe in astral projection. I'm sure you believe in bullshit like Astrology also. Which has been 100% proven to be bullshit. How about instead of believing you are right? You actually find evidence of being right? If this is about expansion of the mind, why are you so close minded and ready to reject anyone's opinion that isn't yours? Be open to the possibilities of being wrong and grow from it.

What are you talking about? this has to be intentional trolling, I said marginals previous message was formed from a boxes mindset not yours. In case you really misunderstood ill pm you later.

Franman is wasting he's time because he see' or hears information and doesn't explore it within himself, it just becomes another thing he vaguely remembers after a while.

I CAN CONFIRM ASTRAL PROJECTION TO BE REAL, I DO IT ALL THE TIME, I'll copy a message I sent to the fool about this later Aswell.

Ps: I actually have explored the vastness of the brain and it also fascinates me. While trying to understand everything about my body I learned to feel a part of the body then run my awareness trough it to get a clear understanding of its total shape and boundaries, when I tried to apply the same method to the brain I was astounded how it seemed to go on and on, like there was an ocean of exploration that I had never attempted to reach. I can't wait to enhance every aspect of it.

Everything most of you have said has been aimed at disproving things you've never honestly tried to understand with out bias, or simply trying to get your view across, a view that has been acquired from whats you've heard , from what you've been taught is true, from what those around you believe so on and so forth, not from your own attempts at understanding and experiencing.

If you think the brain is the most crucial important thing that's fine, why should that stop you and close you off to other things? Meditate and explore your own being, no matter where it comes from. Start realizing that all your weaknesses are a product of your own wrong thinking and understanding or the wrong thought process of your ancestors that you carry with you. You can change and grow. Never think you can't , because if you think you can't or take it as a given and pass it of as normal it will stay as is or worsen. You have to drive the desire to evolve as you see fit.

 

[Mage]

you mean Insidious is real? =(

 

[Onyyx]

I CAN CONFIRM ASTRAL PROJECTION TO BE REAL, I DO IT ALL THE TIME

 

[Chaos1x]

"Astral projection" or leaving the body is a natural ability we all have. Don't let what you think stop you from enjoying it. It's the funest thing I have personally experienced.

Anyway here's the message I made for theFool about it.

Why would you think of me as close minded? Im open to possibility while you ignore it. You think im lying to you about leaving my body? what reason could i have. have you ever even attempted to leave yours? I guess your to smart to try something yourself.

LoL, my first fully conscious exit was the main thing that motivated me to explore my consciousness. i was like HOW COULD I HAVE NOT KNOWN ABOUT THIS!! i felt as it was the most fascinating interesting experience ive ever had.

Man, im just here in this life. i have no reason to judge you or look down at you, all i think is about how much i would of wanted someone to tell me it was real before i confirmed it my self. So i could of started at a younger age.

Your in luck man. you found someone who has done it and believe me its real, learning about the "out of body" environment still fascinates me to this day and i cherish every experience and only hope to master it to a degree where i can do it when ever i want.

Heres the best part, mastery is difficult but experiencing it is easier than you could ever imagine. Its possible to have your first experience in a few days and almost assured in a week or 2. Because its very easy at certain times, like as soon as you wake up. If you can learn to wake up and not move and give a full attempt at that second thats all it takes.

This is how i did it for the first time. follow it and your guaranteed to have one of if not the most interesting experience you've ever had. Please give it a shot, i promise you wont regret it.http://obe4u.com/files/SOBT.pdf

Its the most amazing world of creation where nothing can limit you. Dont worry about anything you've said to me, i dont think less of you in any way. i just know where you are at now but believe me, one fully conscious out of body experience will change how you see everything.