Xbox One Discussion

[Solo]

I agree, DRM doesn't need to be with this next gen of console gaming, I agree. But at the same time, it doesn't really matter either way. If you've got a great to half decent internet connection, being online to verify your content isn't a big hassle. Unless you live in Nigeria with a steady 1 bar connection, then you might get booted off your game after 7 hours.

The point is, DRM is stupid, but it's not a noticeable thing, hell I had DRM in my PC games for the past 7 years before I even understood what DRM meant, and what it did....

Apparently you don't have many friends then. Sometimes I go out of my way to be offline because I don't have to get 5 invites to Xbox parties before my interface even loads. Also, what if you don't have a router? Some people wouldn't want to switch the connection from their PC to their X1 every time they want to play a game. That's a pain in the ass. Also about the DRM on PC games, there are workarounds for there not to be DRM in PC games. On consoles there wouldn't be such thing.

 

[Slayer_X64]

I agree, DRM doesn't need to be with this next gen of console gaming, I agree. But at the same time, it doesn't really matter either way. If you've got a great to half decent internet connection, being online to verify your content isn't a big hassle. Unless you live in Nigeria with a steady 1 bar connection, then you might get booted off your game after 7 hours.

The point is, DRM is stupid, but it's not a noticeable thing, hell I had DRM in my PC games for the past 7 years before I even understood what DRM meant, and what it did....

well the issue isnt that it isnt a pain, the issue is the longterm effects of DRM. once the servers go down you will never be able to play your games again.

its a bit different on PC's with steam DRM since its more longterm stable, but even then it is STILL DRM. thats where we're coming from. basically DRM is like renting, and your actual access to use toe product can be taken away at any time - of course you already know this. alot of us dont want that, we want executive control over our retail purchases, as it has almost always been for retail games. even online passes and the like aside(because then you can still play the singleplayer, you just cant play the multiplayer) thats how its always been. and thats why we're all so upset here.

basically if DRM hits consoles, then what is the point of owning one when you could just have a doubly capable gaming PC which could do all the same things and more? not to mention we'll probably see PC ports spike in popularity now that the architecture is pretty much the same between console and PC.

Its just im not willing to "sign a license" to play a game - i want to have executive control over what i own. perfect examples of why DRM is bad, would be Diablo3, or the new SimCity game. thats pretty much why this thread exists, other than the TV TV TV SPORTS COD TV SPORTS COD COD DOGS thing.

but thats why we're so PO'd. forgive the outbursts earlier.

and then there's the sideffects of not being able to lend out your games, and harming used game sales, which, regardless of the justifications, also forms a bit of a monopoly around the game market, which is illegal, amongst other things.

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

Apparently you don't have many friends then. Sometimes I go out of my way to be offline because I don't have to get 5 invites to Xbox parties before my interface even loads. Also, what if you don't have a router? Some people wouldn't want to switch the connection from their PC to their X1 every time they want to play a game. That's a pain in the ass. Also about the DRM on PC games, there are workarounds for there not to be DRM in PC games. On consoles there wouldn't be such thing.

Apparently you don't know how to go to "Preferences", "Appear Offline" on your mini-dashboard because I get a lot of game invites too, I actually have a 100/100 friends list.

Wait.. did you honestly think the only way to "appear offline" was to rip out your modem cable? Lol... xD

 

[Norik]

Like I said, you don't know how the gaming industry works, Used Game sales and renters are potential profits out the window for developers, and in case you didn't know, a lot of game developers barely break even, or even lose money on the development costs of some games. And following your linear logic of everything being cheap and free, does that mean the Xbox Games on Demand is a scam too? *Gasp!*

How about instead of saying "Oh such a big greedy company! With all their money trying to take advantage of us!" instead you could say the truth "I don't have a lot of money... I won't be able to afford new games all the time, so I'm upset...." Get real!

"In case you didn't know." Who the fuck do you think you are? Of course I know how it works, I'm not five years old. My argument is not about money, it's about owning what I fucking own.

And what's up with your pretentious rich kid attitude? Of course I have money to afford games, asshole, as I've said before I get all my games brand new. "I don't have a lot of money... I won't be able to afford new games all the time, so I'm upset..." nice try, little Johnny. The only thing that upsets me is self-entitled little dipshits like yourself who think they're better than everyone else. Well guess what: You're just making a fool of yourself. All this shows is that you know your argument is shit and have no choice but to degrade your opponent.

Apparently you don't know how to go to "Preferences", "Appear Offline" on your mini-dashboard because I get a lot of game invites too, I actually have a 100/100 friends list.

Wait.. did you honestly think the only way to "appear offline" was to rip out your modem cable? Lol... xD

Looks like my ignored users list just got a little bigger... Asshole.

 

[MKHSpartan]

But... but... everyone loves to watch TV about dogs in COD while having your heartrate monitored by your "always on" kinect while having to be connected so you cannot be subtle about it.