Xbox One Discussion

[Donutman]

Why the heck are people defending DRM on consoles? Do people like getting screwed over these days?

 

[Ishimaru Jinrai]

I strongly disagree. NO OTHER industry has complained about this common legal practice called the cost of doing business. Imagine if Ford wanted a cut every time you sold your used F-150, or you couldn't access the hidden tracks on a CD if you bought it used. I like to support them when I can and buy new but most games aren't worth $60 IMO. They have special editions, DLC, and online passes (which is another BS thieving tactic) to make even more money. The audacity of game companies of thinking they are entitled to a sum of money every time a game trades hand is outrageous. It's your game, which you bought with your money. You should be able to do whatever you want with it.

EDIT: And just for the record, not everyone bitching is a PC gamer (I, for instance, am not).

That's no more than a way of companies trying to increase revenue, and cut into the renter's and used game buyer's market. That's why they have online passes, to get money from used buyers, and season passes, and even weapon skins for games like CoD and Gears of War, hell even Namco did it with adding DLC costumes. Are you going to say they're "taking advantage" of you buy giving you more content? No! Are online passes stupid? Yes, but they don't hurt you AT ALL if you bought it new. So it's not a scam.

And why do you say something entitled like "This game's not even worth $60" that right there is the essence of entitlement. Who are the mass gamers to start pulling out price tags on games? Think if they charged $80 for CoD Ghosts it'd be worth it because it's 'that much better'? If you lived in Australia, they pay around $100+ for games new (setting aside currency differences) the costs of video games hasn't really gone up since 2001, but everything else has, like gas, food, clothes, etc. But console games have ALWAYS retailed for $60 for multi-million dollar budget games in 2013, as they did in 2001. So the cost of making games has gone up drastically, but the retail price has remained the same.... SEE A PROBLEM?

TL/DR people upset they'll have to actually buy games new now. It doesn't effect me, because I usually buy games new. So I don't have anything to complain about.

 

[Solo]

Alright then never buy a used car. Lol

 

[MKHSpartan]

That's no more than a way of companies trying to increase revenue, and cut into the renter's and used game buyer's market. That's why they have online passes, to get money from used buyers, and season passes, and even weapon skins for games like CoD and Gears of War, hell even Namco did it with adding DLC costumes. Are you going to say they're "taking advantage" of you buy giving you more content? No! Are online passes stupid? Yes, but they don't hurt you AT ALL if you bought it new. So it's not a scam.

And why do you say something entitled like "This game's not even worth $60" that right there is the essence of entitlement. If you lived in Australia, they pay around $100+ for games new (setting aside currency differences) the costs of video games hasn't really gone up since 2001, but everything else has, like gas, food, clothes, etc. But games have ALWAYS retailed for $60 for multi-million dollar budget games in 2013, as they did in 2001. So the cost of making games has gone up drastically, but the retail price has remained the same.... SEE A PROBLEM?

TL/DR people upset they'll have to actually buy games new now. It doesn't effect me, because I always buy games new usually. So I don't have anything to complain about.

He is anti-DRM, not game cost price. As a New Zealander games cost about $100 (or $160 if you want to buy that over-priced COD), so our average game is about $80 American and COD is about $128 American ( go bitch about that fucking game price).

 

[Slayer_X64]

That's no more than a way of companies trying to increase revenue, and cut into the renter's and used game buyer's market. That's why they have online passes, to get money from used buyers, and season passes, and even weapon skins for games like CoD and Gears of War, hell even Namco did it with adding DLC costumes. Are you going to say they're "taking advantage" of you buy giving you more content? No!

And why do you say something entitled like "This game's not even worth $60" that right there is the essence of entitlement. If you lived in Australia, they pay around $100+ for games new (setting aside currency differences) the costs of video games hasn't really gone up since 2001, but everything else has, like gas, food, clothes, etc. But games have ALWAYS retailed for $60 for multi-million dollar budget games in 2013, as they did in 2001. So the cost of making games has gone up drastically, but the retail price has remained the same.... SEE A PROBLEM?

TL/DR people upset they'll have to actually buy games new now. It doesn't effect me, because I always buy games new usually. So I don't have anything to complain about.

Spoiler

never buy a used car, used home, used games, used computers, used furniture, used text books, used phones, used anything.

that price difference, is pretty much from currency difference + price to import. nice try though.

as you can see from the link above, the video game industry makes plenty enough money without worrying about "leeches" as you call them.

for reference, 1 billion = 1000 million.

ALSO something you should know is DRM ADDS to the production and maitenence costs of the game, because somebody has to program it all in, test it, and then fix it when there are holes.

EDIT:

TL/DR people upset they'll have to actually buy games new now. It doesn't effect me, because I always buy games new usually. So I don't have anything to complain about.

did you EVEN READ my post? cmon man seriously. im not trying to jump on you right now, but you sound very very ignorant when you're still fronting that opinion even after i gave you information stating otherwise. also you contradicted yourself here.