Xbox One Discussion

[MKHSpartan]

Long story short: DRM sucks and we hate it. Ditch it then we will consider your console.

 

[Norik]

 

[Slayer_X64]

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DRM says no, its not more than core. I think that our anger and our disappointment is completely justified simply because of the existence of DRM on this machine. Even if it had been an all in one console regardless, the DRM was truly the icing on the cake. I dont feel they have the gamers as an audience, or they've at least split their audience in half simply because of that one thing. I can even appreciate this guys point of view, and I see where he's coming from, but DRM is just...an absolute NO. You could have done almost anything else, and as angered as I would be about it, I would have eventually probably been able to look past it if it were not for the DRM. Its a deal breaker.

"I think that we as gamers, would do ourselves a great service,"...to fight DRM. "Microsoft and Sony, would be absolutely stupid" to push DRM.

Game consoles are game centric systems about gaming, for gamers - they can certainly do other things now days and its been proven by todays consoles, but gaming is the main purpose and as it rightfully should be. When that stops being so, then they arent gaming consoles anymore, and I may as well just go back to my PC, because that can do everything, and it can do everything better.

But oh well. Industry flops happen. Perhaps we're long past due for another one by now.

 

[Reave]

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I know how to be a consumer. I never said don't be upset over this stuff. I'm just not foolish enough to start praising the competitor when they are being vague about the very point of conflict.

You must be playing on PC way too much if you think MS is gonna allow us to modify any hardware at all. This is just complaining for complainings sake IMO. If adhering to their policies is such a big deal (I don't see why as 360 doesn't allow this) then don't buy it.

You totally didn't read the article I linked it seems. "We're designing Xbox One to be your all-in-one entertainment system that is connected to the cloud and always ready," the post reads. "We are also designing it so you can play games and watch Blu-ray movies and live TV if you lose your connection."

If you get console banned on PS3 or Xbox 360 and you buy another console to get back on the service, good luck using Dampierre without putting out $5 since your entitled to him. Everything else is irrelevant till we get more info from these companies.

 

[Slayer_X64]

I know how to be a consumer. I never said don't be upset over this stuff. I'm just not foolish enough to start praising the competitor when they are being vague about the very point of conflict.

You must be playing on PC way too much if you think MS is gonna allow us to modify any hardware at all. This is just complaining for complainings sake IMO. If adhering to their policies is such a big deal then don't buy it. swapping a harddrive isnt modifying hardware - and its a feature currently available on current consoles.

DRM is a policy that pretty much destroys freedom to use the products the way we want to use them. of course i wont buy it. and i'd advise against anybody else buying it either, because i feel it's my duty as somebody who is going to be making a career out of this field as well.

and FYI currently i dont play on PC as often as i do my consoles, because im happy with the way consoles handle things now for the most part. its not that im resistant to change - as i said in my above post, its just that DRM is too terrible to overlook.

You totally didn't read the article I linked it seems. "We're designing Xbox One to be your all-in-one entertainment system that is connected to the cloud and always ready," the post reads. "We are also designing it so you can play games and watch Blu-ray movies and live TV if you lose your connection."
yes i did actually read that - dont make assumptions please. do you know all that means? it just means that if you lose connection, you can go without an internet connection for 'x' number of hours before you must resync. and games which are truly 100% offline titles will still require DRM checks on install besides - because they must be linked to your live account, still killing any sort of long term use you had in mind for the title. as for the blueray thats not hard because a blueray player doesnt even utilize DRM afaik, and the TV comes from cable output, which isnt related to being connected either.

If you get console banned on PS3 or Xbox 360 and you buy another console to get back on the service, good luck using Dampierre without putting out $5 since your entitled to him. Everything else is irrelevant till we get more info from these companies.
1) dampierre is a pretty lame example here. 2) thats another reason why i hate DLC being digital only - if they were all retail, i'd buy em all retail just like that. 3) at least when retail i still get to keep the actual game and the actual core gameplay. i may miss out on kool DLC extras and the like, but so long as the core game is there, i am willing to settle for that. core game without fancy add ons is better than no game at all.